Topic: Shoes Or No Shoes... A Rant, A Poll and Possibly A Debate?
Topic Posted by: Isis
Date Posted: Wed Jun 18 12:03:43 2008
Additional Comments: For many years, I have always been that dreaded host, you know the one, the one that makes you ....take off your shoes. I know it may make some people feel uncomfortable, although, I don't understand why. If I go to someone's house and they ask me, I just do it, so what, but I know or I should say I have heard that some people feel weird about this. Please let me clarify, I don't ask complete strangers to take off their shoes or someone who is coming to my home for the first time. For instance, last year we had an 80th birthday party for my mom here and there were about 50 people. My cousins and aunts and uncles were all here, for most of them it was their first visit to my home. I did not ask them to all take off their shoes. However, family and close friends know the drill at my home.
My husband hates this idea and after knowing me for the past 7 years, still b!tches about having to take off his filthy work shoes when he gets home from his job. I always tell him I don't understand why anyone would want soooo badly to have to walk around on their carpets in shoes that it would bother him so much. When I get home from work, I can't wait to take my shoes off.
His mother is a rather peculiar offender of breaking this rule. She knows how I feel about it and yet, insists on not doing it. Usually I just don't say anything. What can I do, it's my MIL. So I do nothing. She came over here last week and I had literally just finished mopping the kitchen floor. I asked her in the sweetest manner possible if she "could pretty please slip off your shoes if you don't mind too terribly much" and she yelled at me "Well I DO mind." So I just turned around and walked away. What can I do? I can't argue with an impossible person. Just as a side note here, she was wearing slip on shoes that did not require tying and she had socks on, so it was not as though she would be walking around barefoot in my house.
Anyway, I just heard this thing on the news yesterday about the filth on people's shoes. Call it my little obsession, but taking off your shoes and washing hands is a big thing to me. I always take off my shoes when I go into someone else's house (if I have socks on) whether they ask me to or not. So when I heard this on the news I had to know more. I found this online:
By Elisabeth Leamy and Vanessa Weber, ABC News
June 17, 2008 -- How dirty are your shoes? The dirty truth about shoes inside your home
Do you wear your shoes in the house or leave them at the door? It's an especially important choice for people with small children who play on the floor.
In some countries and cultures, it's scandalous to walk into a home with shoes on. But in the U.S., most people do.
"I don't really think that much about it," said New Jersey mom Michelle Ciocon.
"Good Morning America" tested the bottoms of eight different people's shoes, as well as two dogs' paws, for bacteria. Ciocon's shoes contained the most bacteria of all 66 million organisms.
It's no reflection on her; she probably just stepped directly in something.
In a recent study, researchers at the University of Arizona found nine different species of bacteria on people's shoes. These types of bacteria can cause infections in our stomachs, eyes and lungs.
The study also found bacteria live longer on our shoes than in other places. As we walk, we constantly pick up new debris that feeds the growth of more bacteria.
The researchers tested to see if bacteria on shoes would transfer to the tile floors in a house. More than 90 percent of the time it did. Carpeting harbors bacteria even more.
"GMA's" test results were "dirtier than a toilet seat," said Jonathan Sexton, a research assistant at the University of Arizona's College of Public Health. "Toilet seats generally have 1,000 bacteria or less, and these are in the millions so there's a lot more bacteria here."
The results troubled Ciocon.
"I'm concerned," she said. "I'm going to make sure everyone takes their shoes off from now on. As soon as they get to that door, their shoes are going to be off."
Children under age 2 are the most vulnerable to the germs we track into the house, because they play on the floor and put their hands in their mouths an average of 80 times an hour.
"That means that your child can possibly be exposed to every single bacteria that you picked up on your shoe [...] all the bacteria from the park, the store, everywhere you went that day," Sexton said.
Out of "GMA's" 10 tests, nine contained coliform, a type of bacteria that comes mostly from human and animal waste.
Scientists blame the floors of public restrooms and bird and dog droppings. The dogs in "GMA's" test came in fifth and ninth place for dirtiest soles.
But that doesn't mean dogs are cleaner than people. One of the dogs in the test had just been for a walk in the rain, which probably cleaned his paws. Also, paws are much smaller than our shoes, so they carry fewer germs.
The easiest way to ensure that you don't track the germs on your shoe soles into your home is to leave your shoes at the door or carry them to the closet. Then you should wash your hands.
In case you were wondering, I do wipe off my doggies paws when she comes into the house, but only if it is wet.
You see the thing for me is this, when I invite people over, I always sweep, mop and vacuum before they get here. Our driveway is made of gravel and they track that in on their shoes. If it is wet outside it is totally gross. In one part of my house we have cream colored carpets (from the previous owner) I hate people walking in there with dirty shoes! I have a mudroom where people can take off their shoes, so to me it's a no-brainer. Once that baby starts crawling, I'm gonna be a freak about it.
So, what are you? A shoe person (in the house) or a no-shoe person? Do you get offended when people ask you take off your shoes? Do you just not care? Do you wake up in the morning and put on your shoes when you get dressed and wear them around your house all day? I have a friend who does that. He doesn't care about taking his shoes off when he comes over here. If you didn't want to take off your shoes at someone's house would it make you feel any better if they had a pretty pair of slippers that you could put on? If you are a shoe person does the GMA article make you think twice about taking off your shoes?
Ok, that is my little rant. There are your questions. Tell me how rude I am if you must, but just remember, if any of you are planning a trip to my house get those tootsies pedicured first, cause you are taking your shoes off!
Posted by: Miss Pamb Date posted: Tue Jun 24 2:17:17 2008
Message: Hi Isis I think this is an interesting subject. I joined the Flylady website a few years ago and one of her first assignments it to "dress to the shoes" and she says it makes it easier to jump up and run out to the mailbox or to do something outside quickly, like take out the garbage. Also it's great to be dressed and ready to go if you have to rush off to school to pick up your kids if there is an emergency, etc. Another reason she wants us to wear our shoes is to protect our feet. Her readers have told stories of rushing around and breaking a toe or having some other injury that would have been prevented if they had been wearing their shoes. It took me quite a while to get used to wearing my shoes but I don't like taking them off at all until I'm ready for bed now. Another think I'd like to share if I might is that when I was a kid one of my aunts was a germaphobe and she had a cow when I handed her baby a pacifier that she had dropped on the floor. My aunt yelled that a million germs had jumped on that pacifier when it hit the floor. I was a little kid and that image scared me to death. Years later my dear aunt died of cancer. I always wondered if her fear of germs had manifested in the form of cancer because of her obsession. Whether you choose to ask people to take off their shoes or not is your choice but I figure if you make your close friends and family take off their shoes you should make EVERYBODY take off their shoe. Personally I don't think it's a good idea. I have athletes foot sometimes and that would be just as icky as dirty shoe bottoms.
Posted by: SqueezeMe Date posted: Fri Jun 20 12:22:48 2008
Message:
Hi, Isis. I'm late weighing in, but anyway...
I would abide by the house rules, whatever they may be. But I will admit that being asked to de-shoe leaves me with the vague feeling that my hostess cares more about her floors than my company.
Posted by: Kelly Oh!! Date posted: Thu Jun 19 8:47:39 2008
Message:
I never ever ask guests to remove their shoes, but I would hope that if their shoes are dirty or whatever, that they'd have the SENSE to do so. A friend of my husband's is a mechanic, and he takes his shoes off automatically, which is fine by me.
I'd never walk in someone's home with filthy shoes regardless of their 'rules', and if they are a 'take your shoes off, please' household, I do so, no bitching, no moaning. It's not my house - duh.
Posted by: Jamie Date posted: Wed Jun 18 20:44:55 2008
Message: A friend of mine married a Turkish man so when we enter their home, we must take our shoes off. It is very disrespectful to her husband if we don't. No shoes are worn in her house, so since I'm entering her house I feel and anyone who enters their home should take their shoes off. On the other hand when my children were crawling, I had asked people to take their shoes off, when in the living room where they spent most of their time crawling. Now, as long as there not muddy or dirty, come on in with or without!
Posted by: Vivian Date posted: Wed Jun 18 20:06:13 2008
Message:
I never wear shoes in the house.I don’t like tracking all that dirt in.I always wear slippers or heavy sox.But I never tell anyone outside my family to take their shoes off. A very few people do it on their own.Most of my flooring is tile, except an area rug in the living room, and carpet in the bedrooms.So if the tile gets dirty it’s really easy to clean it.
My son and my grandsons and my son’s girlfriend just automatically take their shoes off as soon as they walk in the door, and they also do it at his house.
I even went so far as to get a package of those shoe covers at a medical store and I tried to get my son and grandsons to put them on over their shoes, but they just laughed at me.They’d rather go barefoot than wear them.I’ve never had the nerve to ask anyone else to wear them.My cousin is the same way that I am, so I always take a pair of them with me when I go to her house.If I’ve invited people over for something kind of special, instead of my slippers and I have a pair of shoes that I only wear inside. I know I’m weird, but it’s nice to know there are others like me.
It depends on the habits of whose house I’m entering, if I take my shoes off.If they never take theirs off, then I leave mine on, because I think they some would think I’m weird if I take them off. I always take them off at my two neighbor’s houses and they do the same here.
Posted by: valleygirl Date posted: Wed Jun 18 17:47:26 2008
Message:
I wouldn't even think about entering someone's home with my shoes on. If I am told I can leave them on, usually in the midst of removing them, I just reply that I always take them off at home and am more comfortable that way. I sometimes take slippers with me if I am visiting relatives and I know they keep a cooler home than I.
We have a no shoes home, in that we raised our children to remove their shoes, and do so ourselves. We find most people just automatically remove them, but if they don't we don't ask them to.
My parents raised us in a no shoe home so they do know my policy, but, unless the weather is inclement, they usually leave their shoes on. It isn't meant as any type of disrespect. They are elderly, and it's hard for them to bend to remove and replace them. When it's wet they remove them, and we supply a chair from the dining room for them to sit on to put them back on.
At other times, if someone is just quickly running in and out, I will tell them not to worry about their shoes. My carpets need replacing, so it's not a big deal. I may feel differently when we get new carpeting.
I think your MIL has issues and is asserting herself in your home. Perhaps it would be a good idea to make her a gift of a nice pair of slippers to wear while she is visiting you.
Posted by: Grandma b@s Date posted: Wed Jun 18 16:44:13 2008
Message:
Isis, please don't take offense to what I'm going to say. I don't mean it in a mean way at all.
number one: Don't even THINK about germs in this...it'll just make you crazy. Next you'll be wanting everyone to sit on paper because of the germs on their clothes especially in the sit down area... You're not going to get away from germs! And really as for the baby, the germs that he will get on the floor will probably help him build up immunity. I'm a barefoot girl and family. If I didn't HAVE to wear shoes, I wouldn't. I think kids that go barefoot are healthier.
When my son was born, I went to live with my grandparents. They watched him when I would go to school and/or work. And my grandma was not a good housekeeper - let's just say her floors were pretty dirty actually (she would sweep and mop but never sanitized by any means). My son would sleep on a pallet of carpet/towels by her feet, often holding the dogs tail. Oh and he was usually naked. If he went to the bathroom on the pallet, she'd just wash it and throw down more. He was very heavy and she couldn't carry him and she was always with him. There was a time when he was a toddler that he wouldn't EAT finger foods unless he rolled it in dirt (OK, but it seemed like it). It all sounds really gross but he was NEVER NEVER sick. I don't think he's ever been sick. (This is my newest Marine, by the way) He's had to go to the doctor, but not from being sick. Hubby, on the other hand was raised wearing socks all the time so he didn't build up those immunities. The only time he doesn't wear socks is when he is taking a shower. ......
number 2: I would not be offended if asked to take my shoes off. BUT, I never wear socks and my feet aren't that purty PLUS, right now with my heel spurs (although they are almost gone) it hurts my feet to not have some kind of shoes on (usually crocs). The best option for me would be the booties that go over the shoes. If you did want to provide slippers etc, the BEST option would be inexpensive croc-type shoes like they have at WalMart and lots of other places now. They are great because they can be washed after every use.
Posted by: Bonnie Date posted: Wed Jun 18 16:02:34 2008
Message: I don't get the taking off shoes in someone else's house. Maybe with kids, but I would never ask an adult to do it, and I would hope I'm never asked to.
Posted by: Tess Date posted: Wed Jun 18 15:19:25 2008
Message: I don't think it's rude to ask, but I think it's rude to tell a guest that they have to (when it comes to guests in your home, not the people who live there-you can insist with them). I have really ugly feet/toes and I don't want to walk around having people see my feet. Other people might have other reasons for not wanting to go barefoot-medical reasons, don't want cold feet, etc)
Posted by: Jenny Date posted: Wed Jun 18 15:04:22 2008
Message:
Actually, I wouldn't think that taking one's shoes off would work unless EVERYONE took them off. If we're worried about germs, and we are, then when one person wears shoes and strows germs and dirt, then the people who are walking with socks or sans socks are getting those germs on their feet. I think wearing socks for an extended amount of time is just like being bare-footed, not enough barrier. So, if people invited to your house won't take their shoes off, then nobody should. Then the carpets and floors need to be cleaned before anyone starts going shoe-less.
If we're just worried about carpets and floors being visually clean, that's different and people can be careful while still wearing their shoes.
One of the biggest mistakes I made was to put my dad's shoes on to run get the paper. I knew we wore the same size. What I didn't know was that he had a medium case of toenail fungus...which I promptly picked up. It has taken me several different types of medication (orally), plus all kinds of topical creams to get my toenails looking normal. The infection was actually killed early, but the discoloration of my big toes was horrifying. This lasted several years.
I'm really shocked and concerned about having to remove my shoes at an airport security check-in. Who knows who walked in front of me? Who knows what country and what kind of disease are on those shoes and those feet, because when I'm bare-footed, I'm walking where someone else walked, bare and with shoes. I think that should be a subject that the Surgeon General of the US takes up. It could be really serious, especially after that report.
Posted by: MamaMia Date posted: Wed Jun 18 14:53:21 2008
Message: The first thing I take off when coming home is my shoes. Normally, when people come over I'm wearing socks and they mostly follow suit and take off their shoes. I think people are more comfortable without them anyway but that's just me. I, for one, would love to remove my shoes at people's house unless it was some kind of formal dinner where people would wear ''nicer'' shoes. I go next door to my neighbor every day. Her apartment is totally black and white. She has white tiles, a white carpet, white leather couches, black and white pillows, black wall units, etc. I know she wants people to take off their shoes!!
Posted by: Me Date posted: Wed Jun 18 14:21:36 2008
Message:
I always take my shoes off in my house—ALWAYS. I also ask people that come over to remove their shoes. I have never once had anyone balk at doing this. My mom sometimes forgets. I will sometimes remind her, other times not.
If I had someone come over on a regular basis who refused to take their shoes off, I would probably buy some disposable shoe covers (pictured below) for them to wear over their shoes, ESPECIALLY if I had a baby crawling around on the floor. Considering how ugly they are, the refuser may decide taking off the shoes isn't so bad. :)
Posted by: Cinnamon Girl Date posted: Wed Jun 18 13:59:03 2008
Message: Good topic, and it's one that I didn't think about....until now. When I'm home I don't wear shoes around the house. If it's summer, I'm barefoot. Wintertime I wear slippers. When people come over they leave their shoes on. Where I live there's not much to track in anyway. When I go to other homes, I've never been asked to remove my shoes, but I wouldn't be offended at all if I was asked. I'm actually more comfortable without shoes anyway. :-) If I'm not asked to remove my shoes, I always make sure to wipe my feet real good. If my shoes are extremely muddy, then I bring it to the host's or hostess' attention and ask them should I leave my shoes by the door.
Posted by: Allys Mom Date posted: Wed Jun 18 13:22:34 2008
Message:
My house is also a 'no shoe' house. We live in the country now and there is a long walk from the driveway to our front or back doors. We do have long sidewalks, but since we live on a gravel road out in the middle of fields, the sidewalks get dust, grass, etc on them and I don't want that all tracked in my house. I have hardwood floors with rugs down and the grass, dust, etc. shows up very well on hardwood. I dust mop every day and vacuum at least once a week, sometimes twice so the less dust, grass, dirt, etc. that gets tracked in the better for me! We don't really have a lot of visitors other than family or very close friends, so most everyone who comes to our house comes in the back door that goes thru the laundry room into the kitchen. When that is the case, I don't say anything about shoes. But if someone comes in thru the living room where most of the room is covered by a rug, I will say 'if you don't mind, would you take off your shoes? I don't like to track stuff in on my rug. Then I'll throw in something like 'I'm just weird' or something like that. Of course, it is easy for me to ask the people who come to my house because they ALREADY KNOW that I'm a little strange anyway!! LOL
I don't blame you for asking people. It is your house so it should be your rules. I am never offended by people who ask me things like that. As for your MIL - she may just be one of those mil's who will defy you no matter what!
Posted by: ingyandbert Date posted: Wed Jun 18 12:53:10 2008
Message:
Although I usually don't wear shoes in my own home I'm not comfortable taking my shoes off off in someone else's home. I can't put it words, but I just do not wish to do that and so it annoys me when people insist. You're very thoughtful not to ask a stranger or someone there for the first time to remove their shoes, but not everyone is as sensitive to their guests comfort as that. Rather than insist or even request people remove their shoes, I think it's better to say, ''You're welcome to take your shoes off if you wish'' and leave it as an option. I would not want to make my guests uncomfortable right off the bat.
Posted by: Hillary Date posted: Wed Jun 18 12:50:14 2008
Message:
Isis, I agree with you on ALL points.
My home is a "no shoe" home. All frequent and occasional visitors know to slip the shoes off at the front door. My carpet is white, but more than that, I cannot stand the thought of whatever is on the ground and store floors makes it into the place where my children play. It makes my skin crawl. I have to swallow it all though when strangers come over. We had a large party for my MIL's birthday and even though I have a few pairs of shoes sitting at the front door (as a gentle reminder) most folks did not take off their shoes. I told myself "just don't look down. you can clean later."
I always slip my shoes off when I go to someone's house. Well... if I've never been to the house I keep them on unless I see that I can take them off (I hate wearing shoes period). For the most part, I know my friends appreciate that we don't track in the crap from outside.
Posted by: krisa225 Date posted: Wed Jun 18 12:42:58 2008
Message:
like you, I prefer no shoes in the house, besides dirty shoes (especially in rain or snow), then my guests can feel comfortable to put their feet up on the sofa, chairs, coffee table or whatever. And especially children... no shoes ever.
Most of my close friends and family know this... however, on holidays I let the rule slide if they know and don't do it or if they don't know my house rule...
but I'd always prefer my guests take off their shoes... and when I go to someone elses house I ALWAYS offer to take off my shoes.
Posted by: W.E. Date posted: Wed Jun 18 12:19:55 2008
Message:
Very interesting. First, whenever my brother Ray comes to my house the first thing he says (for comfort) is do you mind if I take off my shoes? He feels right at home in my house and never needs to ask but I think it's cute that he does.
Recently we attended my grandniece Maura's first birthday party. This was our first time to their house. As we entered there was an area with shoes. My nephew Tom said we're no shoes people. He didn't ask us to remove our shoes but that's what he wanted - we didn't get the hint (lol). A few minutes later he was taking us on a tour of his very large townhouse. Back to that area we went and he explained it was for Maura's sake because of everything and anything shoes can track in. Ohhhhhh - off the shoes came and just like Ray - I felt right at home. I also noticed that all their art work had an Asian influence - lovely (I digress).
I wouldn't mind being asked to take my shoes off normally but in a home of someone I don't know I might feel as if they were questioning me. Explained the way Tom did was okay. It's all in how you're asked and by whom I would think.