As The World Turns Discussion Group

Topic: Proctor and Gamble support open mouth homosexual kissing

LMAO!  The Homosexual Lifestyle Support Hotline??  The most telling thing about any of these right-wing religious fanatic organizations is how they feel the need to keep their followers in a comfortably brainwashed ignorance and simply give them orders.

"Procter & Gamble wants to know if you approve its efforts to promote the homosexual lifestyle. It has established a toll-free number for you to call and vote to approve or disapprove its support of homosexuality." 

Really?  That's what the 800 number is there for?  I guess LYING is no longer considered a sin?

"The motive behind P&G’s push is to desensitize viewers, especially younger viewers, to the homosexual lifestyle. The ultimate goal of homosexual activists is homosexual marriage." 

Wow, here I was thinking that the motive of a worldwide corporate conglomerate was to make a buck and all the while they're actually selling their products to support their role as "homosexual activists".  Well, I fully support legalizing gay marriage, so I guess I better go buy some Tide and Crest.

"Call the toll-free number P&G has set up for the public regarding its promotion of the homosexual lifestyle. Call 1-800-331-3774 and click on option 2. Following the recording, click on option 2 again."

So...  this is like a gay phone sex line or something?  Yeah, great idea to just tell them which buttons to press (or in this case "click on"...  what the hell kind of phones do these people use??) instead of letting them actually listen to the recording.  Wouldn't want to take the chance that one or two of them might have an original thought of their own.

"Reproduce this letter and distribute to others — Sunday School class, church, coworkers, etc. Ask your pastor to put this information in the church bulletin and newsletter. "

If one my coworkers handed me a printout of this BS, that person would be dead to me.  I love how these people think they have the right to tell everybody else in the world what to think and believe.  I hate Katie Perretti.  Does that mean I should print up fliers, harrass strangers, and misinform the masses to trick them into calling the production company to complain and threaten?  (Well, if I thought it would work...)

Well like duh!

If you were a multi-billion dollar maker of oral hygiene products wouldn't you support open-mouth kissing too?

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excellent point!

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Posted by: sickened
Date posted: Sun May 4 8:39:53 2008
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Thanks for this web site.  I posted my views and have forwarded it to everyone on my address list.  This is what needs to be done to end this vile and disgusting storyline.

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What ''needs to be done'' about the prostitutes and porn stars on this show? Or the tramp who has sex with 4 men in a year? Or the ''sworn enemies'' who regularly try to murder each other? Doing anything to protest that stuff? Yeah, don't bothering answering-- I already know the answer is NO. eom MaryHatch

Fortunately, sickened, your out-of-date opinion isn't mainstream. eom laurieannh

*sickened*...is that your real name? If you stand my your opinion, then why not use your name?

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Posted by: happy
Date posted: Sun May 4 0:14:00 2008
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Am I to understand that if Luke and Noah kept their mouths closed during their kisses everything would be right with the universe (as determined by the AFA?)

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Posted by: laurieannh
Date posted: Sat May 3 23:25:00 2008
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No, they won't end it "as it should be."  Get with the program.  This is how REAL life is.  If you don't like what is going on on ATWT then turn the channel. 

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It ticks me off when people like you spout off if you don't like it turn the channel. People who do not like this storyline and what it promotes has every right to protest and fight the degenerate story they are pushing.

So tell us, *sickened,* which are the stories you DO approve of? The adulteries? The murders/attempted murders? The lies/frauds? The thefts? Are all those things OK by your moral code? eom/D

at least those stories don't promote homosexuality

What a nonsensical answer. Murder, rape, adultery, theft, dishonesty, kidnapping etc. etc. HURT people. Homosexuality hurts no one. Have you ever tried to THINK about what you're saying before you say it? eom/D

I think we could write volumes here of why people who are gay have every right to live their lives without being judged, but *sickened* would not change his or her opinion. So sad! :(

I don't get how the show ''promotes'' homosexuality. The overwhelming majority of couples on the show are heterosexual.

it promotes it by making it seems as if it were natural and pure when it is a sin against nature and a sin against God. It takes innocent young people who are unsure about themselves and tells them, go on, try the gay lifestyle...it's ok. There's nothing wrong with it. Then these innocent young people ruin their lives.

No, it is bigots like you who are responsible for ruining the lives of gay people. Your rants about sin are the reason young people commit suicide because they can't be who they naturally are (loving gay people) and are sick of living a lie. Your open contempt causes undue stress in their relationships. Your interference in their civil rights prevents their families from being recognized by law, denies them the benefits of their partners' health insurance, and keeps them from each other's hospital bedsides when it's time to say goodbye. Wake up! YOU are responsible for bringing hell into THIS lifetime. And As The World Turns hasn't exactly conveyed that the life of an openly gay person is easy. Since the moment he first came out to Jade, Luke has been the target of SIX attacks (blackmailed, almost kidnapped to a deprogramming camp, outed to the whole school, denied an award that he earned, shot, and beaten) - all because he said, ''I'm gay.'' Isn't that scary enough to satisfy you, or do you want Luke tied to a fence, beaten, and left to die of cold and bleeding? Guess what? Not even that will change the fact that some people are naturally gay!

If this lifestyle weren't so wrong, these people wouldn't have stress and suicidal tendacies. They know it is wrong.

How convenient for you that you can convince others that their desires are wrong and induce them to commit suicide! If enough people like me affirmed that their involuntary desires weren't wrong, those people would be alive, mentally healthy, happy and maybe in love and helping others. My agenda saves and builds lives. Your agenda hurts and kills. How dare you look down on anybody?

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Posted by: Tired of Gina
Date posted: Sat May 3 17:47:51 2008
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Gay characters on soaps are here to stay. It may not always be Luke and Noah, but ATWT has proved that ratings won't go down if gay characters are on the soap. (bad writing causes ratings to go down) Its my understanding that Van has recently resigned a contract and Jake is still there. If you don't like the storyline, either fast forward or stop watching.

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This kind of boycott seems pretty silly in our new media age. The Nuke clips will probably be playing on YouTube long after the old farts at AFA are dead. Polls show young evangelicals care more about doing real Christian things like ending poverty, providing healthcare to the disadvantaged, and saving God's planet. The same-sex thing ain't a big deal with the younger set, and many of them know gay Christians. - Ty34

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Posted by: GLATWTfan
Date posted: Sat May 3 16:23:53 2008
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What a stupid site. Im sure that group has weekly book burnings too, something a member of the Nazi party would be proud of. If you dont like this storyline, stop watching the show or FF through it like most people do the stories their not interested in.

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Posted by: Rosebud1
Date posted: Sat May 3 13:57:22 2008
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P&G doesn't listen to outside voices, they never have.  They will approve whatever their marketing people think will sell & can pass through focus groups.  There is no organization or boycott that is going to change P&G's mindset.  If that were true they wouldn't have ended production of AW!

No organization has approval (or disapproval) of storyline content either.  From what I've seen & read, most of the folks who are, supposedly, advocating for more positive images of gays in the media are head over heels about ATWT having ANY gay storyline, whether it is well written, well conceived, realistic or not!

P&G has said that millions of fans could boycott their soaps & even tune out (becoming lapsed fans) & it wouldn't impact their bottom line in the least, or change their minds.  I'm not sure why you think that the opinions of an outside organization would suddenly influence their decisions.

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Posted by: Ty34
Date posted: Sat May 3 13:48:54 2008
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The AFA website says:

P&G has added homosexual lovers to its soap opera ''As the World Turns.''

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Is this a SPOILER ?!

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LOL! Yeah.. Homosexual lovers? Where? Did I miss something? eom MaryHatch

Seriously! You'd think the AFA would be applauding P&G for showing that's it's possible for gay boys to lead chaste, celibate lives. - lol! Ty34

According to my Bible, Noah sinned a whole lot more with Maddie than he has with Luke. And I know the government is being portrayed as evil & insensitive (sending poor, defenseless little Amira back to be murdered as soon as she touches Iraqi soil), but there's a bit in the Bible about obeying the laws of the land. There hasn't really been any homsexual sinning yet! It's those evil heterosexuals breaking all the commandments, lol! =^..^=

According to my Bible, it would appear that David & Jonathan have done more than Noah & Luke. - Ty34

Well... I wouldn't go that far, lol. I have heard some people talk about homosexual subtext in the Bible, such as David & Jonathan, and Jesus & John (the disciple whom Jesus loved), but I don't think that's what was going on. I don't know of any David/Jonathan verses other than being best friends & ceremonial greetings (there's kissing and then there's kissing). Please tell me if I've missed something more specific than that, I don't mind being enlightened and/or corrected, since that's how we keep learning! =^..^=

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Posted by: Brhannada^sArmour
Date posted: Sat May 3 10:32:16 2008
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When has a boycott by the AFA ever worked? This organization has no power to end the storyline. Bad storytelling will get there faster.

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AFA boycott works. Most recently Ford and they listened to them.

Really? What was the beef with Ford? What did Ford do to change its ways. I personaly don't thinnk AFA has much national power anymore. Perhaps some local politics in Mississippi, but AFA is long past its prime. eom (tired of gina)

Ford laughed at the AFA. They did absolutely nothing to impact Ford. eom

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Posted by: phobicNOT
Date posted: Sat May 3 9:00:01 2008
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As it should be?
NOT
The story is an important one. They should not abandon it.

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Posted by: Tosca
Date posted: Sat May 3 8:54:16 2008
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So sad to see a group twist something into what is not.  I see this story as a depiction of homosexuality, not a promotion.  That's like saying that the story about Alison PROMOTED porn stars, or the storyline about Sofie PROMOTED having children out of wedlock

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I understand that by ''promoted'' you mean ''you should try...'' but in the broader sense of ''it's OK to be...'' I would say that the Luke/Noah story is being treated more positively than the others. Which is unrealistic - from the little I have read about pornography models, they don't repent like Alison because they see nothing wrong with sex for pay. Most prostitutes, on the other hand, aren't privileged Americans dabbling in the trade for fun. They're trying to survive.

But Alison was under the influence of meth when she did the porn. She DID regret it, after she was clean & sober for awhile. Most of the porn 'stars' you see ARE under the influence & are making a fair amount of $$, so they DO justify their actions. But there have been those who have been sucked into that lifestyle because of mental illness or addiction, who have changed their lives & found their 'porn' history comes back to haunt them long after they've turned their lives around. eom

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