Topic Posted by: MartyB
Date Posted: Wed Oct 28 10:28:14 2009
Additional Comments: Finally Jack laced into Janet & explained to her that he was not impaired & he gave a clear & concise reason to that end. He shut her up. I just wish he had told her to shut up in the hospital as well. I'm just waiting for the moment when Jack confronts Janet on her knowledge of "Uncle Ralphie". Let's see how she responds? TPTB better have that conversation because if they don't I will be pissed off. So far Janet's been awfully muted on the subject of Uncle Ralphie. Where's the rage & the resentment & anger towards him? Maybe Janet can rememeber the good old days with Uncle Ralphie like she did with Brad on the football field?
Posted by: dandyfop Date posted: Thu Oct 29 17:58:57 2009
Message: I am sure the point is- Even Jack wonders if he was impaired and what part that played in his judgment at the moment of crisis. Would it have made any difference if he hadn't had a couple of beers beforehand or would he have done the same thing? They did not make the point of placing Jack in a bar- ordering another beer and Janet commenting on his drinking right before the shooting for nothing.
Posted by: MaryHatch Date posted: Wed Oct 28 13:13:28 2009
Message:
First of all, I do think Jack was wrong not to tell Margo about the drinking right away. God knows he has been in this kind of situation before, and he knows that it's the cover-up that is always worse than the "crime." Would the hypocrite Margo have gone all "by the book" on him? Sure, probably, at first. But Margo adores Jack almost to the point of worship, and I do believe she would have been at least fair with him in the end.
Having said that, YES, Janet is the LAST person who should be calling Jack out on this. The very first introduction we had to this woman was very possibily a crime-- that of completely neglecting a minor child who had run away. Back then, Janet couldn't be bothered to answer her phone when she knew her teenage daughter was alone and quite possibly in danger. Now, I'm supposed to believe she's all about honesty and "doing the right thing" and praying to the Virgin Mother with her life-giving udders flopped over the back of a pew.
Posted by: Mandi Date posted: Wed Oct 28 12:57:57 2009
Message: Janet's obsession is with the fact that Jack wasn't completely honest. The only time he is permitted to lie about something illegal that may have happened is when it benefits her. Don't you realize that now Janet is now the most wholesome, upstanding person in Oakdale? RME
Posted by: ita, if the writers wanted to show Jack getting really drunk then the writers should have Showed him getting really drunk . It would have made more sense. And more believable that he would just open fire with a pregnant women around. Just my honest opinion. Date posted: Wed Oct 28 12:02:20 2009
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Posted by: Linny Date posted: Wed Oct 28 11:58:29 2009
Message: Marty, I am still of the opinion that Janet knew or should have known that Uncle Ralph wasn't legit. Otherwise, I have no idea why she'd send a complete strange whose gig is in construction to two other complete strangers to "talk" to them about an adoption. Also, her utter lack of surprise, shame, guilt and remorse for allowing such a monster into the life of her daughter and her family AFTER all has been revealed is speaking volumes. I'm not in agreement that Janet's "busy" comforting others because it appears that even now she seems to be thinking more about herself and how others reactions will affect her than much else. Her obsession with this beer issue, although valid, is wildly out of place right now and surprisingly out of character for a woman who at least once asked her husband to hide evidence in the attempted manslaughter of a teenager by his brother.
We are likely never going to see the a scene where she laments her supposed self-induced ignorance about Uncle Ralphie. Most decent people would feel this, but not Janet. And I don't get the whole "Well she was a teen when she last saw him" argument. If that is the case, why put your faith and the outcome of something as important as the adoption of your daughter's unborn child in the hands of a virtual stranger? Moreover, if Janet was 18 when she last saw this thug, that would be old enough to know something wasn't right with the dude. 18 isn't 8.
Suffice to say that Janet will never be called on her blind association with Uncle Ralphie, if that is indeed what it was.
Posted by: dolphina Date posted: Wed Oct 28 11:36:29 2009
Message: I just love it when viewers make up their own "facts" about the show to suit their own preferences. You've evidently decided that Jack drank TWO beers, and you're stating it as a "fact." Never mind that the show is telling us something different... you've decided it was TWO, so that's what it was.
Yesterday Jack said to Janet that he had "a couple" of beers (verbiage people always use when trying to downplay the actual number), and Janet replied "It was more than a couple." Jack didn't argue with her. And really, even if he DID only have TWO beers, that's not what Janet is "obsessed" about... because she BELIEVES he had more than that.
I've got money that says it will eventually be made clear(er) to us that 1) Jack had more than TWO beers, and 2) Janet had no clue what the score was about Ralph. I have to wonder if you'll still be posting about Jack's TWO beers and Janet's prior knowledge of Uncle Ralphie, as though those things were indisputable facts.
By the way, if it turns out that I'm the one who's mistaken, I WILL admit it.
Posted by: Mrs. B. Harris Date posted: Wed Oct 28 11:23:39 2009
Message:
How many people in America have been ticketed for DIU when all they'd had were a couple of beers and didn't feel the least bit drunk? You don't have to be falling down drunk or even that tipsy to be legally over the limit to drive a vehicle. If Jack was too impaired to drive, it's not out of the question that he was too impaired to make the right decisions in that warehouse. He fired into the dark without knowing if Ralph was using Katie or as it turned out, Brad as a shield. Margo called it a clean shoot, but I don't think so.
That being said, I've seen Jack be much stupider when he was stone cold sober.
Posted by: Krissy Date posted: Wed Oct 28 10:55:05 2009
Message: Maybe it's just me, but I can't see how the beers come into play here. It's like Jack said; Ralph was holding Brad IN FRONT OF HIM.. he shot at Jack, so Jack shot back. I think any cop would have done that. I understand that he should never have gone there after drinking, but I think this could have happened beers or no beers. Janet just needs to shut up. Jack should have said something to Margo, but it's not Janet's place to harp on him about it. I bet she'll shut up real fast if he loses his job, and their only source of income would be her hours at the diner. Maybe then she'll finish a full shift.
Posted by: Miss Marple Date posted: Wed Oct 28 10:42:12 2009
Message: Ahhh, but good old honest, "by-the-book" Jack has feet of clay. It turns out he is somewhat less than truthful, shoots before he thinks and becomes angry when confronted. Hmmmm, I guess Mr. Perfect can't be so judgemental with Carly anymore. She at least admits to her faults.
