As The World Turns Discussion Group -- Whose watching the kids?

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Topic: Whose watching the kids?

Topic Posted by: teajak
Date Posted: Tue Nov 10 12:09:28 2009
Additional Comments: Did Carly even tell anyone she was leaving town? She kicked Roseanna and Craig out of the house so they are not responsible for the kids.When Sage gets home from school and no one is there where will she go, to Janet? These 2 kids were just left high and dry with no knowledge of where the adults are. Terrible writing.

Posted by: Roxie
Date posted: Tue Nov 10 22:01:47 2009
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Yes, here we go again. Carly being a bad mother, leaving her kids as soon as she returns from months of rehab to go chasing after Jack. Caring more for a man than she does her kids who haven't seen her for months and need her worse than Jack does, by the way. I don't care if she hires Mary-freaking-Poppins to watch the kids! She still has no business leaving her children right now so soon after such a long seperation. Especially to go running after Jack, who is married and not her problem. All this just to pacify CarJack fans. These writers are clueless! They are so intent on redeeming Jack that they've overlooked redeeming Carly's redundant and careless behavior with her kids in the process.

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Roxie, I thought so, too, but many posters are rushing to their heroine's defense saying it's OK to leave town without arrangements for the children. I certainly wouldn't leave mine like that, plus Carly is NOT married to Jaaaack anymore ! Go figure ! **

We are rushing to Carly's defense just like you trash her every chance you get. You always defend Katie.. so what exactly is the difference? Carly did not do anything that wrong by going to Philadelphia... she went on a day trip to her children's father as he was standing above a city block thinking about jumping.. oh wow, what a crime! lol eom

I trash her when she needs trashing...kinda' like you trashing Katie ! And for the record, I don't agree with everythig Katie does, either ! :-) **

In all honesty I do not see the comparison between us. You comment about Carly all the time... pretty much anytime there is something about Carly you make a snarky comment. I have not said much about Katie recently, and I do not feel the need to say something bad about her everytime she is mentioned. It is your right to trash Carly all you want to, I am not here to say stop what you are doing but, you are much harder on Carly than I have ever been on Katie and that is a fact. eom

In fairness to me, I don't agree with everything Katie does and have said so many times...I usually cut her more slack than Carly because of her age and immaturity...she's grown up being more coddled than Carly.....also, Carly is so dysfunctional and makes such bad choices time, after time ,after time...she never seems to learn. **

Posted by: Miss Marple
Date posted: Tue Nov 10 16:15:13 2009
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I'm willing to wait and see how this plays out. If she simply "materializes" in Philadelphis and then scoots right home all within the space of a few hours, then it's OK and maybe she left a note at least. But if she goes following Jack around the country for days on end with no mention of who's watching the children, then I have a problem with Carly or more realistically with the SL. I know there are those who want a Carly/Jack reunion and are thrilled with this road trip, but I'm not one of them. A great reunion is OK with me, but I do hate to see Carly chasing after Jack yet again -- even if the circumstances are different and Jack is a changed man having acknowledged his fallibility.

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Not only will we see Carly in Philadelphia but also Pittsburgh before they take off down south in search of Simon Frazier. This has nothing to do with Jaaack trying to find himself but more to do with finding another *husband* for Katie. Its almost like what you do when a friend loses their favorite *dog* and you go out and get them another *puppy*. The fact that Carly took off so quickly after returning from rehab just IMO show that she still hasn't got her backbone back. She may be angry at Craig and Rosanna but we know that Craig was never that big a deal with Carly. She only was able to have sex with him when she was drunk. Hardly a huge romance IMO.

Posted by: Midwest Meredith
Date posted: Tue Nov 10 15:43:20 2009
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You are right... it is lousy writing. What was so difficult about a scene where Carly calls someone and asks them to come over and look after the kids?

This is a soap however.. and things like this are very often not addressed with many characters. It is probably tough to write storylines and have these characters be saddled with kids to take care of. lol

I just knew as soon as I read spoilers about Carly going on this road trip with Jack, that there would be people who would judge her for leaving her kids, again. I cannot say that I totally blame them.... if they want Carly to actually change the way CG made it sound like.. they shouldn't have had her take off chasing Jack so soon after coming back from rehab. I really hope there is a scene where Carly takes care of arrangements for her children.. even a scene with Parker telling her Jack needs her and to watch after his father for him... anything. Lousy writing that they do not address this stuff because I do not believe they intended for Carly to look like a bad mother in all of this.. or have it look like she is leaving her kids, again. If someone hates Carly this just gives them another reason to stick it to her, and that is frustrating considering how easy it would have been to address these things in the writing.

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So true! So true! The writers every year make Carly out to be the worst mother ever and we fans then trash her. I'm no Carjack fan but I can admit it's not fair that she's dumped on like that. She loves her kids.

If you'll review Carly's history where a male is concerned, and especially if the male is Jaaack, she loves her kids whe it is convenient to love her kids...throw a male into the mix and it's' *not so much* ! **

I totally disagree with Carly putting men before her kids. She is a flawed character but, they all are. Emily barely ever sees Daniel, Lily seems totally preoccupied with her love life most of the time, Meg seems to have no trouble slinking after Damian.. but, where oh where is Eliza?? I guess my point is truly good mothers on soaps are few and far between.. even Janet who seems to always be there for her Libby Lou, brow beat and tortured her during Lib's pregnancy. You can say that about Carly but, then you would have to say that about every mother in Oakdale pretty much. eom

MM, there's Jaack, Simon, Mike, etc. She is a great Mother when it suits her, but when there's a chance at nabbing a male, she's *outa' there* !!

I do not recall where she went chasing after Mike and neglected her kids.. I need a storyline refresher for that one. She did not leave with Simon just to go off and have her man... she left because they were fugitives, not exactly the same thing and she returned for her kids a few months later. Anyway, you are going to hate Carly no matter what I say and I will love her... debating it all the time changes no one's opinions. I suppose there would be no board is we didn't debate the same things over and over, again. eom

She leaves whenever it suits her, kids or no !**

I requested that you remind me of how she chased after Mike Kasnoff at the detriment of her children... remind me of that storyline if it happened, just asking you to back up your point. eom

You're right...she only got drunk and slept with Mike the night before her wedding to Jaack..and, yes,I remember that the wedding had been cancelled, but doesn't it seem a bit extreme to hop into bed with someone else ? Anyway, maybe she didn't leave the children when she got drunk and slept with Mike..maybe they were in the next room...? Whatta' great example of a Mother ! **

Posted by: cycworker
Date posted: Tue Nov 10 14:57:50 2009
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This trip was only a day trip. Carly expected to find Jack and bring him home or least check in on him, and then return. In a scenario like that it's perfectly logical to leave Parker in charge.A And Carly does come back; hence the scenes in the preview where she's telling Craig she can get him back into bed whenever she wants to.

Warning... spoilers.....

But she must leave again because MW is in the South Carolina scenes, too, and the ones on the rest of the trip, when they look for Simon.

Once it becomes a case of Carly not knowing how long she'll be gone then I think who will help Parker out becomes more of an issue. Even though Parker is 17 and old enough that he can manage, I would argue that he shouldn't have to if there is no sense of how long both parents will be away. I think that is the main reason the kids needed to be with someone while Carly was in rehab... it would've been too much to expect Parker to take on that level of responsibility for an entire summer.

The current situation is multiplied by the fact that Carly and Jack are on a road trip, so at any give time, Parker might not know where they actually ARE. It's one thing to leave your 17 and 10(?) yr old on their own for the weekend while you go to a conference at a hotel with a phone, etc. It's another thing to take off for parts unknown and no set return time.

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Yeah Carly & Jack take that road trip together.

Posted by: gallyn
Date posted: Tue Nov 10 14:13:37 2009
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Parker is nearly seventeen. Surely he can watch Sage, in the midst of a family crisis for a few hours. He's concerned about Jack---he's on a "responsible" streak. If worse comes to worse, he can even drive Sage over to the farm, or call Holden (a family member he's on good terms with) and ask for some advice.

Good grief, I know it's a soap opera, but before the world was obsessed with PC behavior, older children managed to watch their younger siblings all the time.

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OMG..gallyn...there you go using your head! How practical that Parker, who is out of school, been married, supposedly on his own living at home....could actually watch out for his little sister....take her to the soda shop for a burger....as fast as time travels in Oakdale and on to Phlly...Carly will be home soon..

I thought Parker was back in school. Sorry, but he shouldn't be saddled with Sage. She needs her mother. And he does, too./mm

Sorry, a daytrip is one thing. Leaving the kids to help Jack ''soul search'' is another, especially when what he needs is professional help, not a trip down memory lane. Parker and Sage are troubled enough and both miss there mother who is fresh back from rehab. The children should come before Jack and this rather shallow trip (I'm sorry...right now he's still supposed to be a responsible father. He didn't even talked to Sage or Parker before he started this trip). If Lily, Holden or Janet did this I'd feel the same way. So what if Parker is 17? Janet couldn't care less about either of Jack's kids so it's laughable to expect this selfish tramp to look after Sage or Parker when she claims she can barely keep it together herself. com Linny

I am only saying it's okay for Parker to watch out for Sage for a little bit..an afternoon...do we have spoilers that say they will be gone for a month. It only took Carly 15 minutes to get there, surely she will be home for supper....otherwise..Linny..I absolutely agree. Carly should be at home with Sage and Parker. Jack is no longer her responsibility. Let him cook his own goose..or fly off on some ridiculous goose chase after 'someone' for Katie...I'm gonna puke....He doesn't belong on that crusade any more than she belonged in the path of Ralphie at 9 months pregnant...but then, she's a hero...and why would Jack want to stay at home and listen to Janet go on and on about the 2 beers...Lord I hate this story already and it's just begun...

Linny, I was specifically referring to ''today'' and this short jaunt of Carly's to Philly. At the point Carly knows she's going to be with Jack for a while, then yes, I'd like to hear some reference to plans being made for Parker and Sage. I wouldn't expect Parker and Sage to be on their own for a week, say. However, I have very little faith this issue will be addressed. Even to ''dump'' Sage with her stepmonster and a bevy of relatives currently residing at the farm. Or even ex-''nanny'' Teri stay over, since she's rarely seen working. Actually, I'd be tickled to see Jan reluctantly take Sage in, and then act as if Carly's burdened her unnecessarily with her stepdaughter---since of course all her time ''must'' be spent focused on LibbyLou. *eyeroll* gallyn

Forgot to add---this is much more of an issue for me with small children. Meg, for instance, is constantly running around town now without mentioning where her LIL' GURL is. gallyn

Spin it, gall, spin it ! She left in a cloud of dust to chase after Jaaack and you know it...no excuse for leaving her children, period !! She could have told Ben and he could have helped, but, NO ! She has to be the heroine ! NOT !! **

*EYEROLL* gallyn

Again.. Gallyn is not spinning it, the point is every mother in Oakdale sucks pretty much. They rarely ever show them with their kids, every mother seems to pur their own needs above their children's.. including saintly Janet who thought her having her grandchild was more important than her daughter's well being. I guarantee you Carly never would have judged Libby like that so, each of these women have their strong and weak points as a mother. I just feel if you hate Carly you will hate her no matter what... no objectivity at all. You have to judge every character by the same yard stick if you want to be fair... but, it seems like Carly is judged very harshly for every little thing she does... but others get a pass. Katie is having issues right now being a good mother, and if you make excuses for Katie, the same should be applied to Carly. Anyway, as I said above debating this all the time gets nowhere... you will always hate Carly's guts and there will be us who love and defend her.. it won't change. eom

Katie is not being a good Mother right now, but she hasn't left town without providing care for the child. **

Thanks MM....the TROLL just likes popping up to slam Carly and annoy me with her childish antics. I TRULY wish this board had an IGNORE feature. gallyn

Hey, gall, you certainly don't have to read a word I say..in fact, I'd be happy if you didn't. **

Posted by: cjpsf
Date posted: Tue Nov 10 14:03:00 2009
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this is one of those stories we are just supposed to assume that Emma is available. After all..Lib just lost her Dad and her baby so Janet can't go off on a chase after Jack..so Carly has to....

Posted by: Mandi
Date posted: Tue Nov 10 13:57:29 2009
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Parker knows that Carly is in Philly. That's how Rosanna and Craig found out. I believe she went after Jack because no one else would. The fact that he is the father of her children is huge, and should not be downplayed. Also, keep in mind that Parker told Carly that Jack went to tell her about Craig and Rosanna. From her perspective, he tried to help her by telling her what was going on, so she knows he cares for her. He's in trouble, and his evil, selfish, pigheaded wife can't be bothered to go find him. Jack reached out to help her, and now she's trying to help him. I do wish, however, the kids were being cared for, maybe by Emma. Oh, what am I thinking...June Cleavage has forbidden those kids to come to their aunt's house.

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I agree that Carly needed to go to Philly, but she shouldn't go on this road trip with Jack. First, he needs professional help, not help from someone who just got out of rehab. Second, because Janet couldn't give a damn about Parker or Sage, it is extra important for at least one parent to keep this family together rather than having them float around Oakdale. I can see a daytrip...I can't see a roadtrip under the current circumstances. eom Linny

Carly just got home no more than a day or so before she was off again. Jack has a wife now. Period. That's Janet's job whether she does it or not. At some point Carly needs to let go. Her children should come before her ex-husband.-daydreamer

Ain't gonna' happen, daydreamer, ain't gonna' happen...those two words *LET GO* are not a part of her vocabulary where Jaaack is concerned !!**

Posted by: BessBeau
Date posted: Tue Nov 10 12:27:44 2009
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That's what I want to know....some say Carly was so concerned about the children's Father, how about the concern for the children themselves ? Makes NO sense to me.