As The World Turns Discussion Group -- Way to GO Parker!!

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Topic: Way to GO Parker!!

Topic Posted by: LovingOakdale
Date Posted: Mon Jul 21 14:55:46 2008
Additional Comments: Yes, your mother is a slut and it was great to hear you call her that.

Posted by: savingfaith
Date posted: Tue Jul 22 22:26:24 2008
Message:
LovingOakdale, if that is the way you see it, so be it. But reading the posts should give you an inclination that you are wrong in your assumption. If you think it is OK for a 15 year old to call his mother a slut and applaud him for it then you must not have children. I can not imagine any mother thinking that it is great to hear a son call his mother a slut for any reason.

Posted by: silver
Date posted: Tue Jul 22 8:10:21 2008
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Of course it is wrong for Parker to call his mother a slut. She's not and he's out of line. But he's a boy who has been through a lot in the past several years; and it may appear to him that his mother does not put him first - and all teens are ego-centric. Let's see, after she and Jack divorced, instead of focusing on her children and family, Carly left town with Simon, led Parker to believe she was dying, took in a strange man over Parker's objections, decided she needed a vacation with Neil more than she needed to spend time with Parker, and had an affair with Holden. I think Parker showed his love for his mother when he shot Sam to protect her, but his current frustrations with her are inappropriately expressed. If Carly spent more time with Parker, perhaps he would learn a different approach to life and people than he is getting from Jack. Parker doesn't need to be slapped as so many of you have suggested. Carly needs to be slapped for neglecting her family for her own agenda.

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Maybe if Jack wouldn't keep disrespecting Carly at every turn, his ''son'' wouldn't feel so comfortable thinking it is alright to call his mother a ''slut''. It really gets tiresome...this one-sided view of parenting and which parent has an affect on Parker. It is clear that Parker respects his father more than Carly so it seems to me that perhaps Parker is only following his father's lead in dealing with his mother rather than CONSTRUCTIVELY voicing his displeasure at this latest act of selfishness. Of all the names to call Carly, the word ''slut'' seems to be coming from Jack's influence, not Carly's. eom Linny

Of course, Parker respects Jack more because Jack has been there for him the past few years. Jack's influence on the boy has been devastating, but Carly's has been minimal. Perhaps that's part of the problem. eom/silver

...as I said, Parker is following Jack's lead. He respects Jack more and Jack treats Carly exactly the way Parker treats Carly...funny that. eom Linny

Posted by: Skullys Girl
Date posted: Mon Jul 21 22:38:22 2008
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I have to say, that preview sickened me. I think it was grossly inappropriate for Parker to speak that way to and about his mother. I know we haven't seen the whole conversation yet, but my guess is that I too am going to blame Jack for passing his attitude about Carly on their son. True, false, it's irrelevant. If Jack could contain his feelings about judgments about Carly when he's around their children, AS HE SHOULD, since it's not the children's fault, than perhaps Parker would not be so in tune to the inner workings of his mother's personal life, and feel the need to judge as his father does. Parker can be mad about a lot of things when it comes to Carly, but her sex life is not one of them. She's hardly doing guys all over town. There are lines, and this crosses one.

Posted by: MartyB
Date posted: Mon Jul 21 21:33:03 2008
Message:

Of course reading some of the posts below it's Jack's fault that Parker referred to his mother as a slut. Now why didn't I think of that. Carly has dug herself into a major hole & will have to claw her way out of it which she always does.

I cannot condone or tolerate that kind of rudeness & inappropriate behavior from a child to his mother. Carly is many things but slut is not one of them. By the way neither is Janet. The one true slut in Oakdale is Emily...

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Just my opinion, but I'd classify Katie as a slut, and Emily as an actual whore, as she's been paid for her goods. Katie plotted to steal a married man from his wife, she tried to have baby with her ex-husband's brother for revenge, and she spread herself for her brother-in-law while married...Oh, and she cheated on her own husband with her ex. (eom) Mandi

Well, from Janet's anecdotal history, via Liberty....I'm thinking Janet's a slut. gallyn

Katie has plotted to steal a married man from his wife on TWO separate occasions, plus all the other things you mentioned, and yet, she doesn't take an ounce of the slack that Carly gets./ Skullys Girl

Posted by: Roxie
Date posted: Mon Jul 21 21:27:06 2008
Message:
Carly should pull a Janet and backhand the hell out of that disrespectful little 'Snyder'! I don't care whether she is a slut or not, it's not right for a 15 year old to spout off to his mother and call her a horrible name like that. If one of my children ever had the nerve to say a thing like that to me they would be picking their ass up off the floor. I don't care what Carly has done. And as Canna and others have pointed out, Holden will slide through this barely scathed, but Carly will be the town whore and the potshots will start and continue for years to come.

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I have 2 children, and have only spanked (hit) one of them....once. I never felt so bad in my life. but I've gotta say, if one of my kids called me a name like that, I'm pretty sure I'd slap 'em! The double standard with Jack/Carly is unfriggin' believable!! eom

Posted by: D.A.S.
Date posted: Mon Jul 21 19:34:00 2008
Message:
Whether or not Carly is a slut is a matter of opinion. She has certainly been behaving like one with Holden. But Janet is taking more heat and being called a slut when we don't really even know what she has done. We know what Carly has done and much of it is nothing to be proud of. And I don't like the fact that so many people think Parker deserves a smack, knock, or whatever. Glad my parents did not lay a hand on me. And I turned out very well as they tell me all the time.

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I agree, very nicely said.

What do you mean we don't know what Janet's done? In one day she tried to boink a married man and break up his marriage, but when he said no, she boinked his brother instead. And since she's been on the show in such a short time, she's done nothing but live off men. That's quite a bit for just a couple of months. lol. ... Canna

...Uh...the woman has had sex with 3 men now in over 10 years. One of them happens to have been her ex-husband and the other her very single boyfriend AFTER she was divorced. Having an affair with Holden does not make her a slut. It makes her very, very wrong and very, very selfish and trashy...but not a slut, unless you are ready to call Katie, Janet, Meg, Emily (of course) and even Ali a slut. All of these women have had sex with more men than Carly has had in less than 10 years. As for Parker, sorry, the kid should not get away with calling the woman who gave him life and has loved him to distraction and stood by him when no one else would a ''slut''. It is simply wrong and disrespectful and quite honestly hypocritical of Parker who has no problem with Katie screwing his father and his uncle in a time span of less than a few weeks. Heck, he loved Katie so much that he wanted her back with his dad even AFTER he knew that Katie and Brad were ''together''. So yes I have a big problem with Parker and his divided loyalties and bad attitude. eom linny

Excellent response, Linny! I could not agree more. It turns my stomach the way Parker treats his mother, but he worships the pink man canyon. (eom) Mandi

And how many times did Liberty relate some ''wacky mom and boyfriend'' story? When your daughter knows your ''go and get'm dress''....I don't think she's referring to your favorite church outfit. gallyn

Mandi, I wonder why Parker didn't feel comfortable calling Jack a slut after he destroyed his 'holy union' with the man canyon after cheating on her with Carly. Jack's actions ruined that relationship and yet somehow Parker finds it in his heart to not only forgive Katie (for screwing Brad) and Jack but worship the ground they walk on. What a rotten punk of a kid. You can be sure that Parker would not approve of any man who makes his mother happy, even if it were a good man who came into her life. But its fine and dandy for Jack to be screwing his girlfriend's mother under his mothre's roof. As between the two, I would think Parker would have been equally mortified, at the very least, with Jacket's behavior as he is with CarHo's behavior. eom Linny

Posted by: Lulu
Date posted: Mon Jul 21 18:21:10 2008
Message:
This is the worse part of this sorry storyline, the way it is making Parker act. This is not fun.

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Parker has been behaving like an ass for some time now. (eom) Mandi

Posted by: BriGuy
Date posted: Mon Jul 21 18:09:38 2008
Message:

I know this subject creates a lot of heated emotion, but let's remember not to blame the actors on the show for the writing they are paid to say to each other. Mick Hazen (Parker) is a very nice & polite young man; I met him at the fan club luncheon in April. Both Michael Park (Jack) & Maura West (Carly) adore him as if he were another son or little brother to them.

I'd like to believe that the actors have good laughs with each other after these intense scenes are videotaped & in the can. Blame The Show's Writers, Not The Actors!

BriGuy

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Absolutely! It's the story, not the individuals outside of ATWT.

The posters are not angry with the actors--they are angry with the characters.

??????.....I don't see ONE response...not ONE that talks about the actors, so just what are you getting at here? eom LInny

BriGuy -- when poster's refer to Parker, Carly, and Jack they ARE talking about the characters. Period. There is not ONE post here that has in any way referred to Mick, Maura, or Michael, their names have not been mentioned anywhere except by you. Don't chastise behavior or thinking that hasn't been demonstrated. But thank you for sharing your meeting with Mick and the information that the three actors genuinely care for one another. That's nice to hear. And Lovingoakdale, who said anything about any individuals outside of ATWT? Your posts strike me as just itching to stir up whatever you can. eom/pita

I am not trying to stir up anything... any comments are about the CHARACTERS they portray, not the individual they are outside of ATWT. For example a comment is about CARLY (inside ATWT) not Maura (outside ATWT). Hopes this clears it up for you...

Since we were already doing this, why did you have to say anything at all? Clear enough for YOU? eom Linny

Linny - I have no idea what you are talking about, I was replying to pita, not you, to answer a question about my post above where I said 'It's the story, not the individuals outside of ATWT'. Sorry if I offended you in any way.

Posted by: Okee
Date posted: Mon Jul 21 17:59:02 2008
Message:
Way to go Parker. Just the thing to say to you mother that got you off from murder charges. I wonder if Liberty bringing up Janet slapping her was foreshadowing of Carly smacking Parker and Parker and Libby running off to do the nasty since they are sooooo misunderstood. Somebody please, please De-Snyderize that kid.

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It was Carly's faul that Parker was charged with murder in the first place. Everyone warned her about the puppet master, but of course as always she knew better.

Don't EVEN go there. Jack's WIFE tried to kill Carly twice, raped Jack and tried to kill him too. But you don't see anyone blaming Jack, do you? I love these separate rules for Carly and Jack. RME. ...Canna

Carly's Fault Parker Shot Someone

Jack also insisted on continuing a relationship with an unstable woman whose child-abusing husband was stalking her (Julia Two), then dated a serial killer (Eve), then married the woman who exploited his family's pain in a best-selling book (Katie). Carly's got nothing on Jack when it comes to picking real winners. eom MaryHatch

Posted by: Midwest Meredith
Date posted: Mon Jul 21 17:12:15 2008
Message:

Wow... I know I should not even reply to this post because it is completely insulting in soooo many ways but, I will take the bait.

Who cares if Carly is a slut... it does not matter because a 15 year old child should never talk to his mother that way.. it is sickening.

I am just about tired beyond words of the double standards on this show!! Carly is a slut but, Jack can have sex with a woman he barely knows anytime he wants and that is fine?? Holden was married and cheated on his wife but, Carly is the slut and the whore for going along with it??

Whatever.

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Ungrateful Parker

I despise both Carly and Holden for their actions in this storyline, it actually makes me sick. They are both wrong! Adultery is wrong period.

ITA with you MM/eom

Posted by: amy
Date posted: Mon Jul 21 17:07:17 2008
Message:
No child has the right to call is mom a slut, if my kid is living with me I would knock the hell out of him if after all the years I wiped his butt, cleaned his snotty nose

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It is totally imappropriate for Parker to speak to his mother that way. But he is following the example of his adoptive father by showing Carly no respect. It is OK for him to let her know that her actions have hurt him and the family and that he is diappointed in her; which might even cause her more pain that his anger. /MM

It's totally inappropriate to sleep with your so-called best friend's husband or girlfriend.

And it is also out of line to knock your kid for saying something. That's awful.

I don't think there is an issue with Parker disapproving of his mother's actions. The issue is the manner in which he disrespected her. To call his mother that name was the height of disrespect, and he learned that well at the knee of his now-Daddy. (eom) Mandi

GMAB, calling your mother a ''slut'' is wrong. No one is saying that adultery or even child abuse is NOT wrong. In my opinion, some juvenile delinquents in training, like Parker, could use a swat or some form of discipline that doesn't include coddling and agreeing with their horrible behavior. Both Jack and Carly are guilty of encouraging Parker's horrid behavior. All they have ever done is make excuses and blame Carly for Parker's failure to behave like a human being and not a sullen, pouty monster. I have no doubt that both Carly and Jack will somehow manage to raise a real monster in Parker. Permissive, apologetic parents like Jack and Carly seem to manage to raise the type of horrid kids who have a sense of entitlement, no respect for anything or anybody and absolutely no accountability. I still have not forgotten how horrid they handled Parker's behavior before, during and after the puppet masters' murder. He was unjustifiably rude to the man when they first met. He stole money from his mother and framed the man without any real proof that the guy was trouble. He broke into his mother's bar and let his friends steal booze while he stole the puppet master's property as revenge when his threats didn't work on the guy. He ditched curfew, lied about it, when to a bar with his friends, lied about it and continued to get off scott free for just about eveything he did. Even after the trial, it might have been a good idea to talk to the kid about his ''problem solving'' issues rather than beg for his forgiveness and praise him for trying to kill another human being. Sorry, smacking this kid may not help his behavior, but it sure wouldn't make him any worse of a monster in training. I find it repugnant that anyone would condone any part of Parker's behavior since he's been SORAS'ed. eom Linny

Posted by: Paula
Date posted: Mon Jul 21 16:50:43 2008
Message:
If Parker was my son, he would be trying to pick himself up off the floor now. The writer's have done just about all they could to make Parker hate Carly, but there is never any excuse for a young man to talk like that to his mother. Carly should tell him to go live with his slutty father and his shack-up tramp if he thinks she is so bad. I'm sorry, but the boy needs a real lesson and he needs to learn how to respect adults, especially his parents. I wouldn't approve of him even calling Janet a slut and she really is one.

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***Amen to that!***

Posted by: Linny
Date posted: Mon Jul 21 16:01:52 2008
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Here's what i find so telling. Last week, everyone was singing Lily's praises for discouraging Luke from taking his anger out on Holden and here we apparently have folks who have no problem with Parker taking his anger out on Carly. Wow! What a double standard! It is not OK for Luke to be angry with a very married Holden for cheating on his mother, but its fine and dandy for Parker to call this single mother filthy names for having sex with Holden. Riiiight....got it!

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LOL! Love it, Linny! eom MaryHatch

Ok, I'll be consistant. I can understand Parker's reaction but I don't think it's ok. No one should be calling anyone else a slut, let alone one's mother. But the apt comparison would be if someone were cheering Jack on for trashing Carly to Parker. eom/Allison

It is an apt comparison. Jack HAS encouraged Parker to be rude to his mother consistantly, or are we forgetting the way he treated her at the adoption. Actions speak louder than words. Jack has consistently DONE NOTHING when Parker has been openly hostile to his mother. No wonder the jerk thinks he can get away with calling his mother a ''slut'' and NO you are not being consistent IMO. Why is it ''understandable'' that Parker would be upset with his mother for screwing Holden when it is not ''understandable'' for Luke to feel the same way? I have been saying all along that Holden and Carly's actions touch everyone, not just the spouses. eom Linny

I agree with what you just said about Jack but your post above didn't mention Jack so that's why I thought the comparison wasn't apt. And I never said it wasn't understandable for Luke to be angry at his dad (what loving son wouldn't be angry at his father for cheating on his mother?) only that I thought Lily was acting responsibly by encouraging Luke to stay out of their disagreement. I'd like to see Jack tell Parker that he needs to treat his mother with respect no matter what, but that's probably not likely. eom/Allison

Posted by: nanny
Date posted: Mon Jul 21 15:44:40 2008
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I totally disagree with you. There is NO excuse for young boys to be using that kind of language and it would NOT happen in my house!!!

Posted by: Louisiana Girl
Date posted: Mon Jul 21 15:35:42 2008
Message:
Parker needs to be slapped! I told you that this was going to happen. Carly's going to be called much worse than that, plus EVERYBODY'S going to get their digs in while Holden skates away free as a bird!

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I blame and dislike Holden in this situation just as much.

Thank you. ITA!

Posted by: CannaLily
Date posted: Mon Jul 21 15:33:08 2008
Message:
I found it to be the typical Snyder double standard. Parker didn't blink an eye when his very married father cheated on Katie, nor did he blink an eye when his father had sex with a woman he barely knew, then started shacking up with the woman in the Snyder family home.

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Boys can't be sluts, Canna-- don't you know that? It's in the Snyder Rule Book, page 53. eom MaryHatch

I knew it was in there somewhere... page 53... ok, I am marking that down so I know the Snyder rules and can reference when needed!! LOL

Posted by: Bertha
Date posted: Mon Jul 21 15:28:31 2008
Message:
I wouldn't say it was great to hear any young man call his mother a slut.

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But if the shoe fits, it fits.-eom

If one of my boys said that he would be flying through the wall about half a second later. There is no reason for TPTB to encourage children to be disrespectful of their parents, I don't care what they do. No wonder kids are the way they are now days.

I guess we can hear Faith & Natalie calling their dad names, Liberty can call Janet a slut, then Daniel can put in his two cents to Emily. No way should kids talk about their parents like that.

Ozark, Parker's this way because it's what he's been taught by Jack. He watches Jack disrespect Carly, make fun of her, etc., so why should't Parker do the same? If Jack heard what Parker said, he would have laughed, just like the day he laughed when Parker made fun of Carly, the day Jack STOLE Parker out from under her. ....Canna