I'd rather have had Audrey and that awful thug Uncle Ralph get struck down in some crossfire. (eom) Mandi
Posted by: dolphina
Date posted: Fri Oct 30 12:07:40 2009
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While I have to agree that Katie got herself into the mess with Ralph, Henry more than deserves to be told off and ostracized. What he did to Vienna - whose life was also placed in mortal danger - was unforgivable. So while Katie should absolutely own her responsibility - eventually, when she's had time to reflect - she doesn't need to take back a word of what she said to Henry. Breaking off that friendship is probably the wisest thing she can do anyway. The two of them just get each other into trouble.
Posted by: pita
Date posted: Fri Oct 30 11:05:01 2009
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Henry and Audrey put the wheels of Ralphie's criminal actions in Oakdale in motion, but Henry had nothing at all to do with a riskily pregnant Katie deciding on her own to take it upon herself to go confront a dangerous felon and tell him what to do. No one but Katie decided to do that and it was THAT that lead directly to her baby being born at risk and her husband getting killed. Henry may have started the race, but he was leaving the track and calling it quits. It was Katie who hopped in her little go-kart and put this last lap and these wheels in motion.
Not that Henry is blameless because he's not and rarely is. But this mess in particular is Katie's doing - she was not remotely at risk until she put herself at risk. She should have been at home enjoying her baby shower but instead she rushed in heedlessly and recklessly and it's everyone else's fault.
I would be willing to give her a lot of slack in this instance because the results have been so horrific and it's a terrible price to pay for misguided actions taken to help a friend. But, they've gone to the "it's never Katie's fault no matter what" well just a little too often for me. If it weren't ALWAYS the case that Katie is a victim of someone else's actions whenever she creates mayhem, I'd feel something other than the annoyance I feel.
TC is certainly doing a great job and I've long thought she was an excellent actress and long ago when the character was more balanced, I used to love Katie largely because of TC. But she's been insufferable for a long time now and even if it's justified this time because she can't face her part in the overwhelming tragedy she helped create, to me it's just the same old same old where katie is concerned. Nothing is ever her fault. nothing.
This whole thing would be a hundred times more effective to me if they hadn't routinely absolved her of any kind of blame or self-examination. She's been allowed to be a selfish, blaming child for years now and even though she's wracked with grief and her rage and pain are understandable - it just sounds like the usual 'it's all your fault' Katie spin.
And that's too bad.
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Nice summary, insightful post./MissM
Posted by: MartyB
Date posted: Fri Oct 30 7:41:30 2009
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As painful as it is to admit Craig was spot on nailing Henry for putting the wheels in motion bringing Uncle Ralphe to town. His actions above all others lead to this tragedy.
Posted by: Mandi
Date posted: Fri Oct 30 6:42:52 2009
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After the loss Katie has endured, I'm willing to give her a pass on putting the blame at Henry's feet. He and his money-grubbing, murdering mother set the whole ball in motion. Katie is not at a point where she is ready to see her own responsibility for the situation. Her decision to go confront Ralph also led to Brad's death. She blasted Henry for not going to the police, when she could have gone just as easily, no..even more easily, than he. As I said before, her heart was in the right place, but she should have protected her baby first, and then worried about that rogue Henry. She is not laying misplaced blame at Henry's feet. He deserves the lion's share of it.
Posted by: Mia
Date posted: Fri Oct 30 5:26:48 2009
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I posted a response earlier, but it didn't show up here. Most likely Katie is in self-protection mode now and leashing out on Henry is her way of coping with the situation. Later on when she has more time to reflect, she'll probably blame herself as being instrumental in the death of her husband. And rightfully so.
Posted by: dipstick
Date posted: Fri Oct 30 4:59:40 2009
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Funny how Katie thinks all the blame lies on Henry, none of it on herself for stupidly thinking she could interfere and that the mobster would leave if she just asked him sweetly or on Jack for firing indiscriminate drunken shots in the dark like Dick Cheney on opening day of hunting season.
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Jack didn't fire his gun indiscrimintely. Jack was fired on & responded in kind. anyone in that position would have done the same. Plus Jack had that dope Henry to worry about as well. two beers or none. Marty
Jack was not drunk and did what any police officer would do in the same situation. He did exactly what he was trained to do. Did you even watch the episode? Roxie
Posted by: dolphina
Date posted: Fri Oct 30 4:24:41 2009
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One thing Katie was dead right about... when she said it was a good thing Vienna dumped Henry and got out of town before he got her killed. Henry's greed very nearly did get Vienna killed.
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I didn't see it as portrayed as greed. Audrey claimed she was in a jam with Ralphie and that is where it all started. It was based on stupidity, not greed.
I must disagree. Henry wanted the money in the worst way.He just couldn't resist the thought of being rich.tj
Audrey wasn't in a jam with Ralph, she was in a jam with that other guy - and I think that was only for $100,000. It was her bright idea to bring Ralph in to help launder the money so HENRY would be able to keep it without Vienna finding out (and, of course, she would get her cut). Henry was all for it at first. No way was he going to pass on the Stenbeck inheritance just to please Vienna. eom/D
Audrey was as greedy as she was stupid, which ended up being a lethal combination for Brad, and nearly killed Vienna to boot. Henry should have cut Vienna loose a long time ago, since he refused to give into anything she wanted in their relationship. That way, he would have been free to accept the inheritance he received after his mother murdered James. And, from what I recall, Audrey was in a jam because she needed to pay a loan shark. I guess Ralphie paid her debt in exchange for money laundering operation out of Metro. It's truly a shame Audrey wasn't on the receiving end of the bullet that killed Brad. (eom) Mandi
Posted by: gallyn
Date posted: Thu Oct 29 23:52:38 2009
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I think she's lashing out at Henry as a way of lashing out at herself. She doesn't know Henry delayed telling Margo what he knew---as far as Katie knew, Henry had already taken off.
I know---it's probably giving KATE too much credit, but I'm sure she'll only forgive Henry when she forgives herself.
Posted by: Allison
Date posted: Thu Oct 29 22:09:04 2009
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Yes, it is completely her fault she was kidnapped. But what did her supposed best friend do to help her? Run all over town like an idiot instead of going to the police. And when Ralph admitted he didn't know where Katie was, Henry wasted hours of valuable time before finally confessing to Margo. She has every reason to be furious with Henry even if she is also to blame.
