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As The World Turns Discussion Group
Ratings are way down again... let's hope that November sweeps brings better ratings. Let's hope that Maura coming back will help, that all the Carjack spoilers will help and that the return of past favorites will help... this show needs a boost desperately.
So, the spoilers are saying that Jack and Carly find Simon and ask him to help Katie. Anyone else think that is odd?? Jack literally ran Simon out of town as a criminal and horrible influence on Carly yet, he now will seek Simon out to help Katie and raise his only nephew??? Does not make sense at all!!! Also.. when Simon left he and Carly were in love and Simon was over Katie... I suppose now there will be a rewrite of history?? I wonder if we will even get a scene or two with Carly and Simon discussing their relationship.. or will it just be like it never happened??
I am sort of disappointed about the fact Carly will be once again chasing after Jack. Spoilers say Jack leaves alone first and Carly comes looking for him. This seems to be a theme that never changes.. if they are going to attempt a Carjack reunion, they need to have Jack chase Carly around for a change. Hopefully, with a new chapter for them will come a new dynamic that won't be Carly panting after Jack. I am keeping my fingers crossed that Parker asks Carly to go find his dad or something like that... something that doesn't make it seem like Carly is once again following Jack like a lap dog looking for a belly scratch.
Many fans from what I can see have always felt that Simon was Katie's true love. Skatie seemed to be a well liked couple with a good fanbase. However, spoilers are basically saying that Simon tries to help Katie but, in a nutshell Katie cannot be helped because of her love for Brad... they will part as friends but, realize what they had is totally over. I am a little bummed about that because rumors I heard a month or so ago had Katie leaving with Simon (I knew it was too good to be true, lol)... however now it seems that won't be the case and Skatie are completely done once Simon leaves, again. How do Skatie fans feel about the fact the show is basically now saying Brad was Katie's one true love?? The reason I come to that conclusion is that if Simon was the love of Katie's life, she would allow Simon to help her and that part of her that always loves him would shine through and allow her to heal. The spoilers are basically saying the opposite. Anyone a little disappointed in that outcome or does it make sense?
I am really looking forward to sweeps and really hope this show can deliver on its promises. I have to admit I am not 100% optimistic but, I am cautiously excited and they are hooking me back in. Here's to what will hopefully be a great November, with better ratings and familiar faces like Dr. Ben and Mike and Molly.... it will be nice to see them all, again.. especially Dr. Harris.. he has been missed!
By the time Brad came along she was genuinely free of her feelings for both Simon and Mike and I think she was the most settled and satisfied with Brad. Even as a Skatie fan and even still believing Simon represents a powerful passion she had, I'm okay with her having been deeply content and happy with Brad.
I always hated the way they mucked with the Skatie love story and turned so much of it into conflict and trash-talking where Simon was concerned. I've always felt there was much to be resolved there and I would welcome the chance for them to resolve some of the hurts and wounds between them. I would like to see them able to think well of one another.
I wouldn't expect Katie to fall back into a romantic relationship with Simon or anyone so soon after such tragic happenings and the loss of a husband she loved and was happy with. It makes sense to me that it won't work out. But, with the increase in a kind of richness in the interaction among the characters - like the touching scene between Barbara and Henry or the scenes with Jack and everyone or the scene with Janet and Kim, I'm hopeful that there will be some scenes between Simon and Katie that will have some of the feeling and maturity of people who survived loving one another that the end of their big love really should have and will finally put it to rest. I'd be fine with that.
As for Carly and Jack - I think it all depends on how she goes looking for him and how she behaves while they are together. I personally don't think it will be as it has been. Jack is turned inside out and I would welcome the chance to see them do some healing and to move away from the dynamic they've been stuck on for so long. I think Jack will be doing some chasing but not in the way I might think -- I think Carly will be the one to be able to give him some support and guidance about how to navigate through self-loathing and loss of confidence and faith. I think she'll be the only one who gets it and it will change their positions. At least that's what I hope and what should happen, but who knows. I've certainly been disappointed before.
But, overall there seems to be more attention being paid to the quality of the interaction among the characters not just to the plot points.
For good or ill, that gives me some hope.
Jack feels responsible for Katie having to raise the baby alone, and he actually is. (Of course, there is more than enough blame to go around for Brad's death, but Jack fired the shot that killed him.) It makes sense to me that he would try to find someone for Katie to spend her life wife and provide a father for the baby.
I don't necessarily want a CarJack reunion, but if it's well written I may support it. I'm not wild about the idea that Carly will pursue Jack, as I think this time he needs to chase her for a while. If they end up together, Janet's heartbreak will be delightful to watch. She deserves it and more...And I hope Carly gets wind of how cruel Janet often is to Parker...
In the TV Guide interview, Goutman explains that Jack isn't thinking clearly and is just desperately trying to fix a situation that cannot be fixed. I'm not sure why people are nitpicking the lack of logical decision making on Jack's part right now when it makes complete sense that his current emotional state is not conducive to logic. I've questioned the motivation of character's actions more times than I can count, but right now I actually find it realistic that killing his brother has sent Jack into a tailspin leading to some highly erratic, irrational and self-destructive behavior.
As far as Carly following Jack, I too have no desire to see Carly chase Jack again, but I'm okay with it in this particular case. She's not pursuing him romantically; she just wants to offer comfort and help. It would be completely out of character for Carly not to try to help Jack at this time. And she finds out about Craig and Rosanna before she goes, so she may be leaving town to escape her own issues too. I do hope that she checks on her kids before she goes, though. Spoilers indicate that the Carjack reunion will take awhile to play out. Since TIIC appear to be listening to the fans for a change, I would not be surprised if Jack does end up chasing Carly at some point. In fact, I will be incredibly disappointed if it doesn't happen.
As for Simon, I think at this point it's clear that Carly has moved on. So while I would like their relationship to be acknowledged in some way, I'll be fine if they don't make a big deal of it. I'm not sure how they'll handle the Skatie aspect, but I'm glad we won't see Katie rebounding with Simon. Her husband just died. It would be nice for Katie to have some respect for a past relationship for once. That said, I think it's possible to leave the door open for Skatie. I haven't read any spoilers indicating that Skatie is gone for good. It's entirely possible that they acknowledge unresolved feelings for each other, but recognize that the timing is (once again) wrong. I think that would be the best way to handle it while respecting both couple's fanbases. And even though I never "shipped" Skatie, I still believe Simon was Katie's greatest love. And if Paul Leyden ever decides to come back, I think that will be reestablished.
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How are ratings ''way down'' ?? The drop in total viewers may have been 104,000 but that wasn't even enough to move households or share downward from the numbers last week. The good news is that the show actully gained viewers in BOTH the 18-49 and 18-34 demos. That's where they have to gain, if they expect to stay on the air.
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