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Topic: Has JP decided to add the vets all the time now?


Topic Posted by: fee
Date Posted: Wed Jul 2 10:23:12 2008
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I thought it was a fluke at first, and so didn't really comment.

But we've really been seeing much more of Tom, Margo, Lisa and Babs now, and I couldn't be happier about it.  It really seems like it's maybe a REAL thing now!   I'm hoping so, cuz the show has just been SO much better!  These characters not only have history, they have depth to them!   I'm really enjoying the SLs they are on, and am hating the new SLs without them (Coldumb and JJ/Brad/Fluff/Liberty/Parker/Jack.

It's hard for me to believe the writers can do so great on some storylines, while others are just awful!   Do they maybe use groups of writers for each SL, and some of the writers are great while others are like 3rd graders????





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Posted by: bimster
Date posted: Wed Jul 2 17:47:46 2008
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It has been great seeing Kim and Bob on a regular basis. I was shocked when Bob went to Lisa to ask a favor. "Anything for you" said Lisa. That was the first time in a long time that their past could even be thought about.  I had hoped that went Bob woke from his coma he'd think he was still married to Lisa. They could have done that for one episode and given the vets something to play. Kim being understanding, Lisa wanting to help but realizing that she still cares about Bob in a way she would never allow anyone to know. And Nancy knowing all too well that Lisa was secretly enjoying Bob thinking they were married way too much.

The best stoyline that Nancy had was when she said she wrote Oakdale Confidential and Lisa got her feelings hurt over some of the things that described her in it. It could have gone longer than one episode,because seeing Lisa being mad at Nancy was really fun to watch.

I watch because of the vets.


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Posted by: Neiljohnson
Date posted: Wed Jul 2 16:27:15 2008
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All I can say is, someone must have a gun to Chris Goutman's head. I can't think of any other reason he would feature these vets to the degree he has lately. So much screen-time for Tom and Margo, and Lisa has had more lines in the past two months than she's had in the past five years combined! Something is up here. I think it's more-or-less an open secret that Goutman doesn't like Eileen Fulton or Scott Holmes. Why in the world are they suddenly featured?
Changes like this usually coincide with changes behind the scenes, like a new head-writer or new executive producer. But that isn't the case here. So, what has made Goutman see the light? I'd love to know. In the mean time, I'm loving it!

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  • Maybe someone gave him a well-deserved swift kick in that famous
  • ...famous gut of his! Have no idea why this didn't print above!
  • If you look at CG's long term track record, he has always wanted to use vets more, rather than less. The gun wasn't to his head in incorporating vets more, but in shoving them on the backburner or forcing them off the canvas all together. He went to the mat to get EH back when his Corp. bosses pulled the same type of thing w/her that they did w/MB. He got them to bring her back, but it wasn't up to him to use her or not. eom

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    Posted by: Rosebud1
    Date posted: Wed Jul 2 14:23:04 2008
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    We still aren't seeing quality in the material the vets are being given to work with!  I don't want to see all-harpie-all-the-time Margo & Tom.  I also don't want to see Kim & Bob playing second fiddle to the likes of Chris--failing to see their son's flaws that are more than evident to everyone else!  This isn't even a step up from Dr. Bob getting those 'meaty' comatose storylines that prop up characters like Chris & Dr. Rick.

    Casey should have moved out of his parents' house long ago.  I don't buy him sticking around, given all the grief they've been giving him about working for Emily, etc.  Ex-cons take work where they can get it--both Tom & Margo should know that he (& they) need to suck it up until he establishes himself as a solid employee.  The alternative to working for Emily could easily be begging on a street corner, which isn't something two people w/such high profiles in town would consider a viable alternative.

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  • ''We still aren't seeing quality in the material the vets are being given to work with!'' I could not disagree more. Bob, Kim, Susan, Barbara, and Lisa are getting great material right now. Supporting, but still great. And Tom and Margo are getting LEAD material. This story with Casey and Emily is about THEM-- their history, their love, their struggle to keep their family together through two-and-a-half decades. No complaints here. eom MaryHatch
  • Tom & Margo are hardly getting 'lead material'! Chris is hardly a character that should be considered worthy of lead material, but that is what he has been getting. Tom & Margo are playing second fiddle to a wide array of characters that are beneath them. The same holds for Bob, Kim, Lisa & Nancy. eom
  • ''Tom & Margo are hardly getting 'lead material'!'' Yes, they are. I know that disappoints you, but they are. ''Chris is hardly a character that should be considered worthy of lead material...'' Yeah, 'cause he's only, like, a member of THE core family and the only (shared) son of the show's pillar couple. Sheesh!!! eom MaryHatch
  • MaryHatch: Yes, Chris has all those connections, which is why he SHOULD be a more developed character w/focus. However, ever since he was SORAS'd to 'adulthood' (I use the term VERY loosely), the character has fizzled in every storyline! There is always potential, but it gets lost & then the character flounders--no matter who is playing him. Just because he is a member of the core family doesn't mean that he can't be one dimentional or in need of a quality story & character development. IMO, the fact that he IS a member of a core family should mean that all that & more should be put into making the character more than a one dimentional, boring, one-trick pony character who flits in & out of town on a whim. The same problem has existed for characters like Mike, Adam & others in the last several yrs. I expect more, especially when there is so much potential! eom

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    Posted by: Ben
    Date posted: Wed Jul 2 13:58:58 2008
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    If so, it is a miracle and we should all go to our houses of worship, meditation, etc. to light a candle.

    Fee, mail delayed - sorry- sending tomorrow.  :)


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