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Topic: Anyone else bothered about a pregnant woman's murder?

Topic Posted by: cleary233
Date Posted: Thu Jul 3 9:05:59 2008
Additional Comments: Granted its Sophie, but I dunno, there were a lot of ways of running Sophie out of Dodge City,without resorting to this. To see Paul bury Sophie and thier unborn child, yeah its not his, but he doesn't know that, that's pretty harsh. Even James wasn't that callous.

Posted by: htimage
Date posted: Thu Jul 3 17:25:44 2008
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James could be pretty callous. Like father like son, I guess. I'm not 100% certain Sophie was even dead. I also think there's a possibility she injected herself and then planned to blame Meg when someone got her to the ER. Of course Paul decided to bury her instead. I'm just thinking it' not as clear cut as a murder. Maybe Babs found her and she knows something, that's why she was so flustered when she ran into Paul.

Posted by: fee
Date posted: Thu Jul 3 13:04:07 2008
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Pregnant people die in real life. Death is almost always sad to me. (I can't say ALWAYS, but almost! there are too many tedbob bundies, Charles Mansons, etc., running around for me to say it's ALWAYS sad!) It's very sad, even for a nutjob like Sophiloon! But I can't say I'd go crazy because a show killed off a fictional pregnant woman and her child, no!

Posted by: Okee
Date posted: Thu Jul 3 11:22:59 2008
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I'm wondering if it was a murder at all. Barbara told her that she had been married to James and she had learned from him that sometimes sacrifices have to be made to get what you want. Not in those exact words, but something to that effect. Sophie was not happy to learn that the baby was Cole's. Her only real interest in the baby was as a way to get Paul. Maybe she realized that she had always had more power over Paul when he felt sorry for her. Maybe she decided to fake her "murder" by Meg, putting Meg in jail and away from Paul and gaining Paul's sympathy for the murder of "their" baby and hoping he would fall in love with her and hate Meg. That sounds like something from the twisted mind of Sophie.

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Not to MENTION if Cole is planning on helping her! But I don't see how this would win Paul for sophie or money for cole! But's it's DEFINITELY plausible, considering how twisted she is!!! And notice the way he ''hesitated'' before putting any dirt on her face. I think that may be significant. Sophie is just coming into her own as a great nutjob! Why ruin that? fee

In the twisted mind of Sophie I'm guessing that she would play on his sympathies for her and the baby - being sure to remind him of how badly he treated her. Sophie has already proven that she is delusional. Okee

Oh yeah, forgot to add, with the baby gone. Cole has nothing to hold over her head, just his word against poor wittle Sophie. Okee

Posted by: dolphina
Date posted: Thu Jul 3 11:11:21 2008
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Remember, Paul was all set to send his sister Jennifer's baby out of town permanently in the care of a teenager (Gwen) that he really knew nothing about. Then he shoved Meg (and his own unborn child) aside without a thought because getting back to beating on Craig was more important to him. God help the children that brute eventually has.

Posted by: Miss Marple
Date posted: Thu Jul 3 11:11:09 2008
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I'm more bothered by the fact that Paul once again made wrong assumptions (probably) about the causes for Sophie's uhhh, being knocked out/murdered (?) and who did it. I'm more bothered that he made no attempt to get help for a person, carrying a child, perhaps his. Paul has no medical training, and he couldn't be sure Sophie was dead. If she IS dead, it could be Paul who actually killed her. What if an autopsey later shows she died by suffocation? I'm more bothered that Paul even had sex with someone like Sophie, whom he knew to be emotionally fragile and whom he also knew had a crush on him. The character of Paul has bothered me ever since the needless recast.

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That's so true. Paul couldn't be sure Sophie was even dead when he shoveled dirt on her. He's now in Emily's league. eom/D

Miss Marple, I posted something similar under 'Paul..Your okay in my Book' above. What's okay about him? I was also bothered by the fact he had sex with Sophie, and I am disgusted by his reaction to Sophie's murder. eom/silver

Posted by: Bertha
Date posted: Thu Jul 3 10:25:46 2008
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IRL it would give me nightmares. But this is fiction and it is Sophie, so it doesn't bother me.

I hate that the writers did not give Sophie a different sl because the actress is very lovely and seem to have talent when given the right material.

Posted by: nyrangers11
Date posted: Thu Jul 3 10:06:48 2008
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What's saddest to me is that it's pretty much a character trait now that Paul doesn't seem to care that Meg has a hand in the death of his children.

Jenny Ryan - she locked Emily in a barn during an ice storm (and she's a nurse who KNEW Emily has preeclampsia and couldn't be stressed out and that ANY stress would be potentially devastating for the baby) which caused her to go into premature labor and then shot her up with some old drug from a medical bag.

His son with Meg - she threw herself into the middle of a violent fight between Paul and Craig (to protect Craig)

Sofie's baby - yeah WE know it's not Paul's but he doesn't, and HE thinks Meg offed Sofie AND his kid, and he doesn't seem to care. Sofie fine, but thinking Meg offed his child? And he's okay with that?

Paul Ryan is dead. Paul Snyder is now alive and kicking in Oakdale. Such a shame.

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Such a funny post! LOL! Meg saved Emily's life. If anyone is responsible for that baby's death it's Emily. And had Paul stayed away from Craig as Meg begged him to do they'd be parents right now. That miscarriage was totally Paul's fault. And if Paul doesn't care that Meg killed Sophie and 'his' baby, that says nothing about Meg and whole lot about Paul. (Mrs. B. H.)

Mrs. B.H. The Paul and Emily fans are calling Meg *baby killer.* To ng, Meg tried to save that selfish woman's life! The doctor told Em to stay put in the ice storm and to NOT drive. Emily decided to drive in the country of all places, and when she was threatening to drive again, that's when Meg stepped up to the plate to protect that baby. Something Emily wouldn't know what to do. Meg had NO hand in killing that child. If Emily had staye home like she was supposed to, she probably would have delivered a healthy baby.

The baby was perfectly healthy when Emily left her appointment, and the ONLY place she was going was home. Meg called her, demanded EMILY drive out to the farm or she would have her arrested (for WHAT I don't know). When Emily got there, Meg locked her in a barn. A woman who she KNEW couldn't be stressed. Emily's NOT completely innocent but Meg isn't either. The most ironic thing was Meg had no problems shooting up Emily with some drug when she was still pregnant, but after she had given birth and Paul PLEADED with Meg to give Emily something to calm her down after learning about the baby, Meg REFUSED to give her anything without a 'doctor's order'. Too bad she didn't do that the first time./nyrangers11

I believe that Emily was in the process of kidnapping Daniel and spiriting him away from Margo and Tom at the time. She wasn't heading home like the doctor said. She'd stolen Daniel's passport and was leaving for parts unknown which was why Meg stopped her. If Emily had had her way both she and the baby would be dead. It wasn't as if she didn't jeopardize the baby's life at least once when she used it as a bargaining chip to save Jennifer's baby and her own skin in the process. eom Linny

Posted by: Louisiana Girl
Date posted: Thu Jul 3 9:29:03 2008
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It wasn't Paul's baby. i hope they don't do the "Adam" thing with this storyline. I'm out if they do!