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Topic: College Life...

Topic Posted by: ML
Date Posted: Thu Oct 29 9:49:38 2009
Additional Comments: I'm just watching Rachel Ray. She had Whoopi on, and Whoopi just surprised me...

Rachel was talking about some parents paying for kids to have single rooms, personal bathrooms, flat-screen TVs, and maid service in college. She laughed and asked Whoopi about it.
And Whoopi pretty much said she didn't see a problem with it...maybe the maid service shouldn't be every day, but 3 times a week would be OK.

Man, I'm living in am altered universe. OK...Whoopi's a multimillionaire, but I thought her feet were on the ground somewhat. I think Rachel was surprised, too...why would she ask her that question?

At what point do kids learn some measure of self-reliance and sacrifice anymore? I found this completely beyond it all...

Posted by: JuMPer
Date posted: Sat Oct 31 18:11:47 2009
Message:

Interviews with Whoopi have DEFINATELY surprised me lately.

As for kids in college...when do they ever learn to do things on their own? Do it yourself kids...You can walk to the bars, get drunk and cause problems, you can clean your own rooms.

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I agree...and I think Whoopi's days are numbered. I think she's becoming very bored...eom (ML)

Posted by: misspm
Date posted: Fri Oct 30 20:03:36 2009
Message:

I hear about that kind of thing all the time in my world...still amazes me. Whether the parents can afford it or not (and I know a few who can), that totally cancels out the purpose of the living-in-a-dorm experience. Why not just set them up in their own townhomes then?

They aren't giving their children the opportunity to learn some very valuable living skills.

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I completely agree...when Mommy and Daddy solve everything before it's a problem, that obliterates many teachable moments...eom (ML)

Posted by: Traci
Date posted: Fri Oct 30 10:05:39 2009
Message:
Wow... no words! Unbelievable!!

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Yep...eom (ML)

Posted by: bella tx
Date posted: Thu Oct 29 22:57:10 2009
Message:
OHHHH!! That's missing out on the college experience!! Learning to survive at college with the basics is all a part of going to school. It taught me to appreciate sooo much, especially my loving home where meals were always prepared for me, a nice house and loving parents. College should be eye opening to the real world, not a pampered experience. Wouldn't change my humbled and poor college days for anything! Maids? rofl!!

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When I was in West Philly during grad school, Mr. ML was in North Philly getting another degree. We had so much fun being cheap, since he had no money and I had no money. We knew every bar that had $0.25 sandwiches and happy hours, and we had a party when McDonald's had specials. There's something to be said about

Posted by: Lisa P
Date posted: Thu Oct 29 22:21:07 2009
Message:
I think that any child whose parents can afford to pay for their college tuition are lucky. My husband and I both have paid for all of our education.

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I did too, LP...it taught me alot!

You ain't kidding...eom (ML)

Posted by: fuzzwuzz
Date posted: Thu Oct 29 21:56:17 2009
Message:
I'm not surprised Whoopi thought it was just fine. And really it is, if you want your kids to never get used to the real world. The very, very rich need not prepare for the real world as their world will never be like the rest of us. So, I can see it.

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Whoopi usually is much more grounded...and I agree with you...eom (ML)

Posted by: Geri
Date posted: Thu Oct 29 18:45:16 2009
Message:

Ah a TV in a college dorm room ...my mom was dead set against me having one even though I tried to convince her I'd do more work in my room if I didn't have to watch tv in the living room where a lot of people were able to sit and do homework on their laps which I could not and still can not do (write on my lap)...once my parents separated the end of my Junior year and my dad brought me back to school Senior year -- he got me a TV and VCR since the 1988 Summer Olympics were being held in September and I wanted to be able to see events. I was vindicated when my grades went up -- I actually spent more time in my room doing work like I thought I would. However, I must add that it was very small TV -- no giant screen for me! How does one even fit in a dorm room?

Maid service is ridiculous truly -- when do kids have to start being self-reliant. My girlfriend was saying her son should have come home the first few weeks of his Freshman year ... how many students don't ever get to go home even for Thanksgiving/Christmas b/c it costs too much to travel...the kids nowadays have it way too easy (can I say that even though I don't have kids?).

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I was talking to my friend about this, and she was horrified...and as I was talking to her, I remembered that she goes to her son's room every 2 weeks to clean the bathroom in the son's suite. Last year, she went every 2 weeks to bring fresh fruit and make sure that his roommate and he had vitamins. Ummmm...yeah...eom (ML)

Posted by: Bonk5
Date posted: Thu Oct 29 14:04:27 2009
Message:
thats crazy! man I can barely pay for my daughter to live in a 3 person suite, dorm. (thats room and board) and with the younger son leaving for college next fall, hubby and I might end of living in a car! LOL

No, its not that bad. But there is no TV in their room, they kids can go to a lounge type of room for everyone in that area, to watch TV, cook, chill out. They do their own laundry.

I have had my kids do their own laundry, clean their bedrooms, bathrooms , since they were little. I know when they go off to College, they can survive!

Oh, the life of the rich and the famous !~~

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The coddling thing helps nothing in life...eom (ML)

Posted by: PhoenixTamer
Date posted: Thu Oct 29 12:49:52 2009
Message:

This is some GOOD STUFF ml !!!!!

LOL

Ok, I had wonderful praents but I basically put myself thru college. I worked every second of my college life. I can promise you very deeply that there were no maids or flat-screens on The Tv!

Ive head a job and worked since I was a junior in the high school.

I also learned SO MUCH in terms of social skills by NOT having a private room freshman year. I liked my roomate.

All this said...college really WAS - as they say - the best time of my life and I'd go back in a second if I could LOL!!!

If I ever had a kid that wanted those things i'd put them up for adoption.

chris

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College definitely was fun...and the college thing really is a way of easing people into real life, although it's a completely artificial environment. This maid garbage is just ridiculous...eom (ML)

Posted by: SnopesQueen
Date posted: Thu Oct 29 12:32:34 2009
Message:
Oh Lordy! I just went to college campus tours last weekend, and saw a couple of rooms with big tvs in them, much bigger than I own!

And I overheard a mother asking "You mean they have to clean their own rooms?" when she was told that there is cleaning service for the common areas and common bathrooms only.

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Absurd...eom (ML)

Posted by: Mandy
Date posted: Thu Oct 29 12:14:02 2009
Message:
Unreal. Seriously. Said while my daughter is upstairs working on essays for her scholarship applications.

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I can't imagine being a kid and wanting to be alone freshman or sophomore year...eom (ML)

Posted by: cgeminime2
Date posted: Thu Oct 29 12:12:28 2009
Message:
I see nothing wrong with the single room, personal bathroom and eh, even the tv. But the maid service? Come on, really?!?

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I don't see it for freshman or sophomore year...there comes a time that learning to deal with people is a very important thing....eom (ML)

I know way too many kids/friends who had an extremely difficult time maintaining average grades because of a partying roommate. cgem eom

Posted by: nichol
Date posted: Thu Oct 29 11:58:12 2009
Message:

That surprises me about Whoopi too. Normally she is very grounded. hmmmm.

I think it's insane!

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Yep...eom (ML).

Posted by: Kalia
Date posted: Thu Oct 29 11:06:15 2009
Message:

Kids nowadays are so over indulgent. But, then again...where do they learn that from??

I see it all the time, teens so spoiled they don't want to work or earn their way, just expect it handed to them.

I have friends who hire college kids and most of the time, they come in late with a multitude of excuses, and they don't seem to care! So what if they get fired. Its really becoming a problem. I'm not saying all kids are like this, certainly there are those who play by the rules and are good workers. But, sadly a lot of them are not.

And comments like that from Whoopi only make matters worse. Three times a week for maid service??? Really??! How about the kids not treating their dorm rooms like a pig sty and pick up after themselves! What a concept.

I know when I was living in a dorm, I didn't have the luxury of someone else picking up my dirty laundry off the floor. And I actually had to work two jobs---plus attend classes full-time! Imagine that!!!!!

*sigh*

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Every generation thinks the next one has a cushy life...I remember when I was in college and hearing that I had it good. But once it becomes a Richie Rich existence, it's a WHOLE different thing...eom (ML)

Posted by: ML
Date posted: Thu Oct 29 10:54:09 2009
Message:
I found the story...
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/13/earlyshow/main5381370.shtml