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Topic: Its Been a Couple Weeks Now...Your Impressions of JJ as Lucky?


Topic Posted by: PhoenixTamer
Date Posted: Mon Nov 9 19:13:08 2009
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Topic: Its Been a Couple Weeks Now...Your Impressions of JJ as Lucky?

I like stars.

Well, here is what I what think bout it:

It is very obvious that young man grew quite a bit as an actor in his years away.

I have been more impressed than I had thought what i would be.

To me, the main difference between JJ and Mr Gregory Vaughn that still bothers me is the PHYSICAL difference.

The other dude was built and tall and all that and i totally like bought him as a Bad-A$$ Cop.

This young lad, however (JJ) is a very very slight-of-frame young lad and Id laugh at him if he tried to rrest me.

But, the guy he replaced could probably have beated me up real bad if Id laughed at HIM.

Ya know?

You follow me?

Chris/pt





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Posted by: cruella deville
Date posted: Thu Nov 12 17:16:04 2009
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I really like him. Has he had any scenes w/Lulu yet?

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Posted by: Sideout
Date posted: Wed Nov 11 16:27:28 2009
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Totally back on the Lucky train with JJ now. GV just didn't have JJ range and the writers had to do things with Lucky that they would not have done with JJ. SB (Jason) plays off JJ in a really interesting way. They actually engage and more emotion is coming from SB. AG is also picking it up with JJ and going deeper again. The way AG was playing Luke had become so surface like he was without a teather. Now I hope to see more JJ interaction with Lulu and hope that JJ gets her acting level up as well. Seems they all try harder in their scenes with JJ more then they did with GV. With GV is was kind of like let's hurry up and get through this...IMO


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Posted by: Rosebud1
Date posted: Wed Nov 11 15:49:24 2009
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I just hope that TPTB make Lucky intelligent again.  I like GV, but he was horribly miscast as Lucky & more to the point, the character was unbelieveable w/the lousy storytelling/writing.  I never bought Lucky as a cop, period.  He wouldn't have strayed THAT far from his upbringing.

I could have believed the character as a private detective or even the house detective at his cousin Carly's hotel.  But the character was SO dumbed down he wasn't REALLY Lucky at all, unfortunately for GV who got stuck w/the dumbed down version.

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Posted by: brandonsmom
Date posted: Wed Nov 11 6:42:20 2009
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Hi, I've recently returned just to watch JJ again as Lucky.  Great to see him again, not so much Sonny, Carly, Sam, and the writers.  So much violence and ugliness, more affairs of the heart, please. I wish Jason would get amnesia again and become appalled at the company he's been keeping, they make the Qs look like angels IMO.

 

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  • From your finger tips to the suits eyes. Helena

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    Posted by: JMO
    Date posted: Tue Nov 10 19:29:34 2009
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    JJ was such an awesome actor as a child and/teen.  He really was quite talented for his young age.  Unfortunately, I'm not feeling it this time around with JJ as I did years ago.  He's still a good actor, but he just doesn't impress me to be any better than the rest of the cast, JMO. 

    Lucky matured into a man when GV portrayed him, and we saw him for the past six years as  the adult version of Lucky.  His strong masculine look made him believable as a cop, a lover and husband to Liz, and father to her children. 

    I don't mean to bash JJ, but to this day he still looks like he's not much older than a teenager, and he appears to be too wimpy and soft spoken to be a cop.
    I loved the chemistry he once had with RH when they were teenagers.  As a couple, their young love was  romantic in a ''sweet'' way, but as an adult, he does not even look like he's in the same league as Lizzy.  He looks more like a younger brother to her, especially when you compare him to all the other men she's been involved with in a relationship.  

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  • JMO - I am RIGHT there with you...while i think JJ as an ACTOR has inproved, this version of the CHARACTER just comes off as WAAAAAAY too young....even though hes really sweet. - chris/PHOENIXTAMER
  • The difference is the writing team. - Logan

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    Posted by: Ha
    Date posted: Tue Nov 10 18:47:08 2009
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    It's odd as the character has gone thru changes that JJ wasn't there for. What's getting on my last is his head shaking. I noticed it yesterday,when talking to Liz before he *shot* Nick, and then today to arrest Dad. I LOVE that he's back, but not to the extent if they *screwed* Greg.

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  • I heartedly-gree with you HA...i like jj but hate how they screwed mR gREg!!! - chRis

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    Posted by: NiteOwl
    Date posted: Tue Nov 10 15:20:15 2009
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    I was doubtful at first that JJ could step back into the role of Lucky, as that character has changed (and aged) since JJ first portrayed him as a kid.  But... I have been pleasantly surprised, and find myself warming up to his version of Lucky.  He seems to connect better with actors he is in a scene with.  Love him with TG and find I liked him quite a bit in his scenes with Jason.  These two characters have quite a bit of history.  For one thing, Lucky is now raising Jason’s son as his own, so it was good to see JJ help the audience feel that connection.  In my humble opinion he did that with good acting - it was simply felt – and didn’t need to be said.

     

    I still do not like seeing JJ with Elizabeth; frankly he looks too young to be romantically involved with her.  It is my hope they will pair him with someone else.

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  • Im with ya Niteowl....i myswelf and me an i personally really LIKE jj but NOT for who lucky is NOW supposed to be..he does indeed look to young to be doing really bad and naughty things with LIz - jmo - chris/pt

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    Posted by: ladfan
    Date posted: Tue Nov 10 11:23:29 2009
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    I like this Lucky, but he is not believable as a cop.  He looks too young.  I loved GV and his Lucky, but also like JJ.  But when he is in his cop mode, I don't find him compelling.  I am sure Lucky will get the storyline written from his POV, regarding Niz.  As long as he is not a cop, I am ok with it.  In his scenes with Jason, I didn't like Lucky almost defending Jason's choices.  I know that Jason is king on this show, but at least the cops should be spared from accepting his choices.  I actually don't want a buddy type of relationship between Lucky and Jason.  They both have reason to dislike each other, not the least of which is the whole Cop/Mobster dynamic.  They should never be friends. 

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  • ladfan AND ld: i gree with most u say here. i LOVED greg's lucky EXCEPT that he lacked any semblance of chemistry with the other characters or charisma and wasn't really right for the character....I really like JJ as a DANDY young actor but NOT for a COP!!! - (OR being naughty with a gal like lizz) - chris

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    Posted by: tweety
    Date posted: Tue Nov 10 9:57:13 2009
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    I loved all the Lucky's.  But I am very partial to the original actor, JJ.  Just like Robin, I feel I watched him grow up.  It doesn't matter to me about the physical appearance changes because thats what you get with soaps.   Look at Michael.  Even int he flashbacks with Jason, the little baby had red hair, and my favorite Michael had red hair and then they go and change the actor to someone very different physically.  The same with Carly.  To me its not the appearance so much as its the direction and make-up of the character I don't want change.  And so far, GH has done a good job with being consistent with the characters.  Although I wish I could see the little red headed Mikey play this part today. 

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  • Good stuff, tweety - thanx!!! :) ... - chris/pt

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    Posted by: Helena
    Date posted: Tue Nov 10 9:29:40 2009
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    I couldn't care less about his height and size. Robert Redford is 5'5". Many famous male actors are short and play strong male lead roles and even bad guy roles. It's all in the delivery. Luke and Jason happen to be taller than usual.

    His voice is very soft but I like the fact he can convey many feelings without shouting. More importantly, JJ gives Lucky back the IQ that GV and the writing removed.

    SqueezeMe mentioned it and I'll elaborate even more on what I see happening to Lucky's character. Yes, Jason showed far more respect than he ever did to old Lucky.

    New Lucky is less apt to be so reactionary like Mac and old Lucky. He also seems less concerned with competing with Jason.

    I see Lucky moving on from the dreaded job that ruins characters at the PCDC. Maybe he'll get into PI work? Or make ammends with Luke. Hook up with Maxie again? I have a feeling LizNik will compell him into a new line of work and give him a new edge.

    JJ gets high grades from me.

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  • Helena - I agree 100 percent with your post. You say it better than I could : -)
  • Just an aside: imdb.com says Robert Redford is 5' 9
  • I accidentally cut my message above off. There are people who have stood next to Robert Redford who say he is at least 5 foot 10 or 11 at the minimum. One of them is a woman who is almost 5 ft, 10 herself, and she says he stood taller than her.
  • You're message got cut off because you used quotation marks. Use two apostrophies instead or just one and you won'tget cut off. I meant to delete the part about R.Redford because I was looking up actor's heights and found he is 5'9'' like you said. Not tall. JJ is 5'8'' and Al Pacino is only 5'7''. I mentioned elsewhere that Manny was only about 5'5'' and look how menacing he was. JJ has the ability to be menacing if the writers want him to be. Helena
  • Was he wearing cowboy boots because they have heals. :) Helena
  • I agree JJ's height does not matter. At first I wasn't sure JJ could easily step back into the role of the aged Lucky, but now think he is doing a great job. Some criticized his scenes with Jason, but frankly I have felt them to be more realistic. Afterall... Lucky is raising Jason's son as his own, it stands to reason there would be a bond between the two men. eom/NiteOwl
  • Hele...i would like to POSIT (do you know what POSIT means? - i just leaned!!!) that maybe it was not so much a lack of IQ that Gregory's Lucky has but more a lack of CHARISMA!!! - Hmmmmmmm?????????????????? - chris
  • Chris, yes I know what posit means. Where did you learn it? Anyway I'm glad to have a chance to clarify. I think GV was perfect for the Lucky Guza wanted him to be until now. He played Lucky thick headed and reactionary. That was the writing. Now that JJ is backl Guza is forced to reinvent Lucky and that's what's happening in my opinion. Helena
  • I actually think thats a pretty shrewd and Right-On take on whats going on, Hele ....As for me ad POSIT, i always figured it meant the same thing as POSTULATE (or more or less) but I was always too lazy to check....well, i finally checked, and i wish i hadn't bothered bc it seems like i was right all along :(

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    Posted by: SqueezeMe
    Date posted: Tue Nov 10 8:36:12 2009
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    I do follow you.

    JJ is very talented, and he's giving a first rate performance.  He's just so very different, it's like watching a new character.  I like the ''new'' character, he just doesn't jibe with Lucky.  However, I will say that I sensed real respect from Jason when I didn't see that with Lucky before.  But there's a surprising lack of chem between Lucky and Luke.  It's a mixed bag I guess.  I like JJ, but I agree that Lucky needs to be more of a physical threat.  I've been wondering if his new renegade attitude is a setup to de-cop him.  I could go for that.

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  • I think Lucky is a bit too soft, too, but JJ can easily make him more menacing and his size need not matter. Remember Manny? He was tiny. LOL. Helena
  • Back in the day, JJ and Luke had enomorous chemistry. I missed that very much and hopefully these two will once again regain that great chemistry. Thats one of the things I think they ruined with the new Lucky's.
  • I agree, they did. I forgot to mention it, but the chemistry between Lucky/Liz is definitely still there. I like them together, despite myself, and nothing has made me like her much lately. //SqueezeMe
  • I don't think JJ and TG have had enough time on screen together to make a judgement. What've they had? One scene at the Haunted Star and one short scene on the harbor. With a story like what's sure to come with the outfall of the LizNik reveal and a new Cassadine war between half brothers, I guarantee Luke and Lucky will have some very intense scenes. JJ's had only about ten minutes screen time total since his return. It's not enough with anybody. That said I liked his chemistry with Jason. Helena
  • You know WHAT, Seniorita SQUEEZE??? - You may be on to something. I really feel that it may be in the best interest of this actor (jj) and the character-arc to not have his be a PO-Leeeece no mo! - chris

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    Posted by: countess2
    Date posted: Tue Nov 10 7:17:32 2009
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    GV shouted every line or tossed it off to his screen partners with angry.  JJ gives me a full range of emotions, so it is no contest that I prefer JJ.  The physical differences and "buying Lucky as a cop" don't matter at all to me.  It's a soap--if I'm told this one's a cop and this one's a billionaire, I suspend my disbelief.

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  • So true. GV is no great actor, handsome as he is. He had two speeds, anger and gullibility. Helena
  • I those thik are nifty points countess!!! - chris

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    Posted by: Jean
    Date posted: Tue Nov 10 1:52:52 2009
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    I follow you!  For me, the difference is physical too.  I don't buy JJ as a cop.  He's not big enough.  Maybe he'd be okay as an undercover cop.  A few days ago JJ was leaning over the table interviewing Jason at the PD.  Even though he was being forceful, I smiled because it was obvious that Jason could knock him down with his little finger.  Also, about his voice.  It seems a little bit in the high range.  GV's voice could be deep and mean, but when JJ tries that he sounds comical.

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  • Jean - that was the exact same scene with jason that made me think the exact same thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - chris/pt

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    Posted by: MurphyDog
    Date posted: Mon Nov 9 22:08:04 2009
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    I LOVE JJ and now, Lucky again. Everything about Lucky is so much more interesting to me. I thought GV was pretty to look at, but he put me to sleep every minute of every day he was onscreen.

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  • NO QUESTION that JJ has alot ,ore Star-Power and that charisma and that special ''IT'' quality...and GV was VERY boring, i agree....but, physically, JJ just comes off as a bit too young and slight for the character....but i DO like him!!! - chris/pt

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