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Sorry for making another post but I just didn't know whose to reply to plus, I don't want to rain on everyone's parade.
I thought today's show was horrible, and not because I prefer Reva with Jeffrey. The chemistry between Reva and Josh just wasn't there for me today. It was nothing compared to a few days ago and the glimpses we've seen over the past few months. The entire thing seemed hokey and ridiculous. (Maybe the first wedding did too, to be fair, can't really remember my impressions of it.
I thought fake HB and Sara were just ridiculous. And of all things, Cassie "bonding" with Sara? Totally not believeable to me. And all that griping about being the younger sister? "She did this first, she did that first...." By the way, Reva had Richard first, tooo. But Cassie, you had Jeffrey first. Guess he doesn't cut it. I don't remember original Cassie having any problems feeling shadowed by Reva.
It was good to have Josh talk about Reva's tendency to disappear, but I thought it came out very awkward and unreal.
Also liked that Reva said she'd been Waiting all along for Josh to say it was a mistake.
But Josh has his head in the clouds and is all starrry eyed. Reva is more grounded and based in reality, but this story of reunion has far to go if they want make it work. This isn't real for him yet. All in all, I found it very disappointing. Just because I like Jeffrey and Reva together doesn't mean I don't enjoy Josh and Reva, but they were off for me today .
But, for me, who does want Reva with Josh, I didn't have a lot of trouble overlooking that. I wasn't unaware of it, but I'll leap like a gazelle if they'll finally pull Josh back from the hell he's been in for the last couple of years.
I totally agree with you about him being unbelievable at this point. He had just had another one of his "We can make it" conversations with Cassie, and then he asks Reva to please let him come back to her? Yeah, right, I'd really trust that.
I think it's pretty essential that Josh be made to grovel and atone for his craziness. Reva has had her fair share of traumatic disconnections where she had to flail around or chase something or find herself and Josh has always been expected to be understanding of it because that's just Reva. Well, this time, he's the one who had the breakdown and went off looking for something anti-Reva and what he thought was self-protective. So, he does have a lot of crap to make up for, but I'm willing to give him some berth. He's been through a lot of Reva-drama over the years. But, still, all that "Cassie is the one" stuff needs to be paid for.
Personally, while I thought it was hokey, I liked seeing Sarah and HB acted out. The bonding with Cassie was weird, and Cassie calling her "Mom" seemed really unbelievable. But, in a way, I was glad Cassie finally got a chance to feel in some sense that she experienced Sarah even if was a few times removed.
As far as her feelings of competition with Reva -- to me it makes complete sense that they've increased exponentially. Cassie was okay with Reva's bigger life and marriage and love for Josh when she didn't see Josh as hers. She was the one who was instrumental in getting them not to divorce before the whole cancer story started. As long as she wasn't in love with Josh, she and Reva were sisters and their rivalry was only that. That's not much to get riled about.
But, once she was in love with Josh, then they became rivals in love, rivals for the attentions and love of the same man. That's a WHOLE other ballgame. That can unhinge the best of us. Especially with the weight of "Always" behind it and the knowledge that he really hadn't been hers for the taking as she and he thought.
I always found it unbelievable that she just kept on with Josh after the whole truth came out. What kind of person could do that? So, she's never really felt secure despite all her blustering about Josh being hers and she's been living looking over her shoulder waiting for Reva to pull up along side her and pass her to win -- just like Jeffrey said. I thought that scene was terrific.
I know many here hate the character of Cassie and particularly NF's Cassie, but I don't. I have definitely hated her at times and I have so totally hated Crash I can't even find words for that. But, I think NF has brought a kind of inner turmoil and underlying pain to Cassie that helps explain her abrasiveness and her dependence and her anger. I think she's a crappy person, but I like the character, if that makes sense, and I will enjoy seeing her finally lose Josh and get her reality check cashed.
I too enjoyed the humor about Billy and the actor.
I also thought they did a pretty good job of weaving the two events together. There were some places that didn't jibe, but there were a few where it was almost seamless and those were very effective. I remember the first wedding and it was SUCH a long time in coming and they had been through SO much and kept apart for so long that it was just kind of a high to see them finally marry. It was overdone I guess, but I ate it up. I especially remember the tent with the video taped messages and it was fun when Billy brought that up -- felt like family.
Reva's weight gain is true to life and love is so much more than that. Love sees past those things. TV, where visual reigns supreme, not so much. It's a little jarring given how they are dressing her, but I really have no trouble buying that Reva is and always has been the love of Josh's life and he is finally able to face that again. She's a powerful force and she's been as destructive as she has been wonderful so I can get that's he's been focused on the destructive and walling away the power of their love. It seems the wall got torn down and now he's back in deep water. No wonder he seems a little stunned.
The part about her disappearing and the whole "thought you were going to jump" was pretty funny. It was silly because she wasn't in any danger, but it did give a glimmer about how irrational Josh has been about never suffering her abandonment again. He was never going to face that again, no matter what.
So, long post --- I enjoyed yesterday. It wasn't the most amazing thing I've seen or the best soap I've seen or any of those accolades for me, but it was good and it was a LOT better than GL's been in a long time.
I also loved when Cassie got up and made a fool of herself about not letting things go on. She was out there on the edge and her lame attempt at saving face was embarrassing and transparent. She's a nut case and for some reason I like that.
I'm looking forward to today. Something I haven't thought or said about GL in more than a couple of years.
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I really liked today's show. And I thought it very like real life that Reva has gained weight, but that Josh sees past that, as so many people do who are in love when they get older.
The show made me nostalgic for when I started watching in 1984 and Reva first came on. The flashbacks to the first wedding reminded me what a beautiful woman Reva has always been. However, I too am so disappointed in her wardrobe - it just makes her look huge. I know she is a lot bigger, but she could look so attractive and classy if they would only dress her appropriately. Her breasts actually look obscene, not attractive at all, in the low cut dresses with spaghetti straps.
I also like the plot direction the show took today - I am enjoying seeing Cassie get hers. She stole her own cancer-ridden sister's husband - no decent person would ever do that. She deserves everything she gets.
I tend to disagree, but I'm with you on the Sarah part. I thought that was just totally awkward!!! And you're right, "past Cassie" could always hold her own, not just whine about how Reva had it all. On that part, I agree with you completely!
I found it hilarious though the way Billy got into it with the actor that plays him, and at one point said "Actors" in an irritated way..HA! That cracked me up! :)
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