One Life To Live Discussion Group -- Todd-Marko

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Topic: Todd-Marko

Topic Posted by: Miss. Bear
Date Posted: Wed May 7 14:21:19 2008
Additional Comments: Todd throwing Marko on that meathook reminded me of a scene from "Texas Chainsaw Massacre". When will these kids finally learn to stop messing with Todd??

Posted by: Bess
Date posted: Thu May 8 14:11:19 2008
Message:
Todd should be kicked out of La Brule & a restaining order should be put out on him to keep him away from both Langston and Marco, and Cole for that matter too!

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Cole should be in prison for shooting Miles. I guess it's okay cause Miles is an adult and Cole is a teen. If the situation was reversed, CHILD ABUSE!!

Posted by: ladfan
Date posted: Thu May 8 9:26:47 2008
Message:
They need to get Todd away from the kids Marko and Langston. He looks really pathetic trying to threaten children. Let Todd go against adults his own age and size. I want Langston to tell Dorian about this meathook incident.

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Absolutely, Todd is being made to look pathetic threatening these teens. Where is the Todd Manning who slammed an abusive father up against a wall when the man was belittling his kid? The Todd who saved Jessica a couple of times, once from a possible sexual assault when she was around 13? Todd's one virtue has always been his kindness toward kids. That has vanished and we are left with this pathetic child-threatening man. Wanda Wolek

Todd has been completely pathetic ever since Cole and Marty arrived on the scene. It was bad enough when we had to suffer through CAM. ladfan

Todd should be a complex, conflicted character! I can believe that he acts out when he thinks there has been an injustice. That IS what he has been doing lately, even though he is wrong! It is also why I've always said that this was an inevitability w/Todd. He was always going to have issues w/Starr growing up & becoming a woman. He was NEVER going to be a father who didn't get into her business & try controlling her life. Todd would feel this way if she was 16 or 96! But particularly the combination of Starr getting closer to the age Marty was when he raped her & setting some boundaries as she makes more of her own decisions, especially in areas (like sex) where Todd has no control. eom

Not taking up for Todd, but he sees kids as equal to adults. That shows how messed up Todd is. He is immature and has never emotionally progressed to be able to tell the difference between a teenager and an adult.. Beating the crap out of an adult when they lie to you is much, much different than beating the crap out of a teen when they lie to you. -lj

Posted by: Rosebud1
Date posted: Wed May 7 19:49:36 2008
Message:
This was also reminisent (sp) of Sonny (GH) putting AJ on a meathook yrs ago, threatening him to sign away his parental rights to Michael. It was only part of the plan to part AJ from his parental rights. Ultimately, Sonny told him that he would go to the authorities w/information that would have put AJ in prison--& THAT is what got AJ to sign on the dotted line. So this kind of action HAS been done before.

As far as Todd is concerned, this is all quite consistant w/the character & his history. He IS violent & cruel. Always has been, deep down. It has only been when TPTB (Corp) wanted to 'tone him down' & 'tame' the character, that they lost their way & tried to 'redeem' him.

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Todd is violent and cruel, but he has never been violent with children before. I think this is low even for Todd. ladfan

But Starr is a teenager, not a child. She is becoming a young woman, something Todd was always going to have BIG issues with. eom

Posted by: Rosebud1
Date posted: Wed May 7 19:48:53 2008
Message:
This was also reminisent (sp) of Sonny putting AJ on a meathook yrs ago, threatening him to sign away his parental rights to Michael. It was only part of the plan to part AJ from his parental rights. Ultimately, Sonny told him that he would go to the authorities w/information that would have put AJ in prison--& THAT is what got AJ to sign on the dotted line. So this kind of action HAS been done before.

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Sorry for the double post. eom

Posted by: LuvJerry
Date posted: Wed May 7 18:45:00 2008
Message:

I'll be a devil's advocate here-I don't condone Todd's actions, but this is a soap and Todd is the way he is. About children's rights: where are Markko's parents?! We know Langston doesn't have any. But honestly, on what planet where children ever been taught that it OK to lie and endanger your friends' health? Starr is pregnant-she needs to be seeing a doctor. Todd is volatile in regard to Cole.

If the kids had any guidance about telling the truth, they wouldn't find themselves in these crazy messes. If I were one of Markko's parents, I would tell this boy to find some new friends. Why does Langston care if Todd ever realizes the truth about Starr?

It is a shame that the writers Todd had to go to these extremes to get the kids to talk. This is bad writing.

I hate this SL. But watch-someone will probably be nominated for an Emmy in this crazy SL (Next to Marcie, of course).

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LJ, I was just thinking that today - where are Markko's parents? Or a big brother. Or an uncle. This kid is showing up with bruises from beatings and no one from his family has raised a stir? Bad writing. What I'd love is for one of Markko's older brothers - a very big older brother that is built like a Latino Brodie - to come looking for Todd and give him a righteous beat-down. Wanda Wolek

Posted by: The Thinker
Date posted: Wed May 7 18:28:48 2008
Message:
It's getting to the point to where I'm surprised some children's rights or advocacy groups don't start complaining. If this were a primetime show I bet it would much more talked about.

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There are worse things than teens being hit. Have you ever seen the movie

It cut me off up there.

Don't use quotation marks. Use just one quote. eom/Ruthie

Is that why I got cut off?

Yes, that is why you got cut off. You can use the apostrophe key twice, or as Ruthie said, just use one quotation mark, but if you put in the two, you will get cut off. Don't know why, its just that way.

Posted by: Wanda Wolek
Date posted: Wed May 7 15:10:59 2008
Message:
When people stop blaming Todd's victims for what he inflicts on them.

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Really???

I'm tired of people blaming the kids for every time Todd loses control. Should they know that Todd will lose control? Yes. But what are Langston and Markko to do? They think Starr and Cole are relying on them, and like good teen friends, they are trying to honor that. It puts them in harms way. If a mad dog was attacking Starr and/or Cole they would try to stop that dog. Well, Todd is a mad dog right now. God knows, I've watched this character since his inception and I find the character interesting, but I don't always like him. Wanda

Marko and Langston are bringing this on themselves. What kind of friends are they of Starr's? Helping her run away? Real smart.

Sixteen and seventeen year old kids, mature as they might seem, are still going to side with their friends. Marko and Langston didn't suggest to Starr and Cole that they run away, they are trying to help them because that's what teenagers do, they help their friends if they are so set in something. //Donna

Thank you, Donna. That is what I was trying to say. Right or wrong, they are trying to help their friends. They didn't tell Cole and Starr to run away, but they've got their backs while they're doing it. Todd has every right to be mad. Todd does not have any right to physically threaten them. He has other recourses. Heck, drag them into Ramsey. But no, he uses violence and threats of violence to get what he wants. Pathetic. Wanda

Wow!! These kids can do no wrong can they???

Miss.Bear, do you not read the messages? I said Langston and Markko are wrong for helping Starr and Cole, but I understand why they did it. But whether or not they are wrong, that does not excuse your precious Todd for hanging them on meathooks, threatening them with knives, and beating the living daylights out of them. Where is he taking responsiblity??? And I don't believe for one second he was being truthful about that with Starr. He'll say anything to get her home. Wanda

As Langston said to Dorian, Starr & Langston consider themselves to be 'Cramer Women', so they stick together. They think of themselves as family, not just friends. eom

Wanda, I believe Todd was being truthful with Starr. He loves her. At least he's trying. I can't say the same of Starr at this point.