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OLTL Discussion Group
Very interesting night. Everyone has two routines and there are three weeks to go. Tonight they dance ballroom and latin.
Marissa & Tony: Tango - Instrumental
She's a cutie but I'm so over the cutesy. She can dance but it's not always easy to watch. Tony needs to style for the type of woman she is. I find myself looking away when I know a particular move is coming. That's the challenge Tony. Nice job but it didn't knock me out.
len: came out - you're best dance. 9
Bruno: great job. 9
Carrie: such a wonderful performance. Fantastic. 9
TOTAL: 27
Cristian & Cheryl: Viennese Waltz - Tonight Is The Night
I just want to keep watching him rehearse. Awww, his daughter is a sweetie pie and calls him a prince. He is really on fire and a smooth dancer. Sexy TOO. Great choreography.
Bruno: South America's Clark Gable. Brilliant interplay.9
Carrie: new fluidity found but it lacked a bit. 8
Len: a bit of romance but lacked content. Very good routine to watch. 8
TOTAL: 25
Kristi & Mark: Viennese Waltz - I'm With You
She has to calm HIM down in rehearsal so they go skating. She only fears the male celebs (no mention of Shannon or Marissa). Whoa and wow. Those turns were something else but not perfect. They told a wonderful story and I loved the use of the umbrella.
Carrie: Prop paid off but technically off. 9
Len: start was too long. Don't need props. (Len says Bruno's hot air is the cause of global warming) 8
Bruno: played dramatically very well. 9
TOTAL 26
NOTE: This was the same week Sabrina left. Don't think that can happen but giving an 8 on this dance?? Keeping Kristi humble perhaps (lol).
Mario & Karina: Fox Trot
Poor guy gets his highest scores and was bottom 2. There's almost no one trying harder than Mario (imo). Another great job.
Len: great maturity for 21. Not the most elegant but well done. 8
Bruno: so much youthful vitality.. Not quite there but always a pleasure. 8
Carrie: very ambitious and difficult routines. Need to be stiffer (did anyone else hear snickers) 8
TOTAL: 24
KENNY MAYNE AND JERRY RICE RETURN MANANA!!!!
Tom's quip o' the evening where will Shannon and Derek put their feet. (Last week all four were in their mouths).
Shannon & Derek: Tango - Instrumental
STOP apologizing (the damage is done) and dance. They look great and the dance is fine. She's no competition for those left but this is her finest hour. If they go I won't miss them.
Bruno: a bitch of a dance - this was fascinating. 9
Carrie: best dance yet. Good job. 9
Len: Teriffic job - well done. 9
TOTAL: 27
Jason & Edyta: Quick Step - The Dirty Boogie
Fun rehearsal. He looks great, is light on his feet and does a fantastic job. Phenomenal ending (encore dance maybe).
Carrie: Great - larger than life. Fantastic. 10
Len: You're (footballers) a tenacious bunch - you're in the final. 9
Bruno: Quick lightening. Performance of the night. 10
TOTAL: 29
Marissa & Tony: Rumba - Quando, Quando, Quando
She can dance, truly, I'm just not enjoying watching her. Ballroom is not the style for her. Broadway IS.
Bruno: full bloom, romantic, warm and sweet. 8
Carrie: beautiful - gave me goose bumps. 9
Len: you acted the part. wasn't much hip action - too careful. 8
TOTAL: 27 + 25= 52 of 60
Cristian & Cheryl: Samba
Good lord I'm loving this. OH NOOOOOO he must stop then tries to go on but he's injured. He has a sever muscle cramp and leaves for the hospital. The judges state they will score on what they saw up until he stopped.
Carrie: appreciates he went on for Cheryl. 7
Len: agrees - carried on7
Bruno: also appreciates him. 7
TOTAL: 21 + 25=46 of 60
NOTE: What they saw up until he stopped was only worthy of SEVENS??? Are they kidding???? They HAD to have taken off because he didn't complete.
Kristi & Mark: Cha Cha - Don't Stop The Music
More than redeems herself. This is great and so fun to watch and HOT.
Len: liked the middle but not the style - Bugaloo Hip Hop (Bruno argues) 8
Bruno: very inventive - loved it. 10
Carrie: 2 snaps up for Hip Hop Cha Cha. 10
TOTAL: 26 + 28= 54 of 60
Mario & Karina: Mambo
Incredible comeback from earlier. Great choreography.
Bruno: slick, fast, furious and dangerous. Devil in your hips. 9
Carrie: set the place on fire. 9
Len: wild, wacky, wonderful. 9
TOTAL: 24 + 27= 51 of 60
Shannon & Derek: Mambo - Ain't Nothing Wrong With That
She's truly awkward. A stab at a cute hip-action-in-the-judges'-faces is lame and very high school/childish - the rest of the routine follows suit. She is more awkward tonight than she's ever been. Wonder if Len will call her on the (fake butt) prop.
Carrie: I don't know what to say (can't say I blame you). Lines are awkward (yep they are). 8
Len: died and gone to heaven. Bionic bum but Carrie's right - gawky (ouch). 8
Bruno: worked the tushie but agrees - ganglyness.8
TOTAL: 27 + 24= 51 of 60
Jason & Edyta: Paso Doble - The Theme From Monday Night Football
He is wicked and looks fine. Fab job.
Len scared the ^&*%...life out of me. A bit too much posing. 8
Bruno: stormy Jason master commander. A winner. 9
Carrie: fantastic and unconventional. (Jason tried to keep her low to the floor for lift but he did take her up). Foot off floor for lift - not needed. 9
TOTAL: 29 + 26= 55 of 60
Jason and Edyta pass Kristi and Mark for the lead. Cristian is at the bottom due to his injury and the low scores. I still think the weakest one here is Shannon and she should go (and for a bunch of other reasons, too). If Cris goes before her it's wrong. JMO.
Marissa & Tony: yes, she did a great job, I still am not a fan, but I give her props for all she has done. She has come a long way.
Cristian & Cheryl: poor Cristian. I gave him all my votes just so he would have another week at least. I really like him, he too, has come a long long way from the beginning of the show.
Kristi & Mark: She is just a beautiful graceful dancer. She's probably gonna win, and she will most likely deserve it too! Love to watch her and Mark! Mark deserves to go all the way this year, especially after last year with his Cheetah girl.
Mario & Karina: He's really trying and is pretty good. I think the judges were too hard on everyone last night. Mario deserved higher scores.
Shannon & Derek: I am so disapointed in their attitudes. I know they are young, but I dont' think they should have gone off on LIVE tv like they did, and then to keep bringing it up ... .. well, shut up about it already. It's done and over. This was the first week I did not vote for them. Disapointment.
Jason & Edyta:I really like Jason , I don't think he'll win, but would love to see him in the top three. He may just do it too. He's doing a great job to be such a tall big fellow.
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BALLROOM ROUND:
Marissa & Tony-TANGO--This was her best dance. She even looked light on her feet! Wonderful routine. Beautiful costume. Crisp, clear moves. But it just isn't her dance. I think it would be easier to accept her fuller body size if she was with a smaller partner. With Tony, she has this double thing going on.
Cristián & Cheryl-VIENNESE WALTZ--Another beautiful performance. I don't see what Len is talking about, I thought they had a lot of traditional Viennese Waltz in there and I'm a stickler for that. He's getting picky now that they are getting down to two dances. I thought that Cris did a wonderful job. I loved that ending with Cheryl's drop/swing, the spread eagle swing around again and his slide to her. Great! His daughter is cute, too.
Kristi & Mark-VIENNESE WALTZ--So beautiful! I liked the umbrella prop. If you want to compare it to Cris & Cheryl's, going by what Len said about not enough waltz to Cris, Kristi had less than Cris and yet Len didn't say anything. I still liked it anyway. Loved seeing a little bit of her on the ice too.
Mario & Karina-FOXTROT--Very good. Not as good as last week. I couldn't figure out what was bothering me but I think Carrie Ann put her finger on it. He could have been a little more stiff. It seemed his knees were in constant bend, other than when they were supposed to be. Otherwise, I liked it.
Shannon & Derek-TANGO--I thought that was terrific! Shannon did a wonderful job. Good quick and sharp movements. Little problem with the hat bit at the end but it all came out okay. I'm glad Derek finally put his feelings for her aside to teach her more properly. The music was a little weird and yet fit well.
Jason & Edyta-QUICKSTEP--Fantastic! What happened to that stiff guy from last week? He loosened up, didn't watch Edyta's feet and had fun with it! Great dance! Kristi, watch out!
LATIN ROUND
Marissa & Tony-RUMBA--I liked the dance. It was sexy, but they didn't seem to use the floor much. It seemed to be more in one place. I would have preferred more to it.
Cristián & Cheryl-SAMBA--Oh, I feel so bad for Cristián and Cheryl too. I hope he can continue because I like seeing him in this and he is doing so well. Up to that point, I thought he was doing pretty good because the last time he complained that he couldn't do the Latin dances as well for a Latin.
Kristi & Mark-CHA-CHA--Terrific! As soon as I saw them do the hip-hop moves, though, I knew Len would have a problem with it. But for me it was great as usual.
Mario & Karina-MAMBO--Wonderful! Sexy! Mario seems to do well on the Latin dances. Are you sure that he and Cristián aren't mixed up? LOL! It did seem like they didn't end right with the music. Was that intentional or were they off?
Shannon & Derek-MAMBO--Much, Much Improved!! A fake butt, huh? Well, it looked like she really wanted the judges to see that she could move those hips by doing it right in front of them. I thought that it was good but I think Derek needs to take her to a ballet class to help her smooth out her gangliness. She finally got the idea that you have to overexaggerate sometimes to make things come across better since she has no hips to begin with.
Jason & Edyta-PASO DOBLE--Wow! That was Great! He has improved so much from last week, but he, too, still has a little stiffness in him. Maybe he and Shannon should take a class together. But I loved that he did it to the Monday Night Football theme music. That was creative on Edyta's part. It was a good thing that he wasn't traded this week as had been rumored. They would have had to do a last minute costume color change, LOL!
Some Comments: I just have to say I like how supportive of all the couples are of each other. I liked how they all stood up in a "touchdown" stance like Jason's ending to cheer him on when he and Edyta came backstage. Their support for Cris too. You wouldn't think they are competing. Even Shannon & Derek are much better. I think Derek was just protecting Shannon and felt so bad for her that he wasn't thinking that he was talking to the camera. If they go out now, I think they will feel much better about it because she finally got approval on her hips. If Cristián has to bow out, they might do something like they did with Sara Evans a couple of seasons ago. If he is able to stay in, he might have extra votes due to sympathy and Shannon, Marissa and Mario might be in danger. Right now it looks like a showdown between Kristi and Jason. Kristi has to step it up more now.
One more Tom moment--I loved Tom's announcing for tomorrow "those ballroom favorites...Def Leppard!". Oh, and Kenny Mayne and Dance Center is back! Looking forward to that.
Extra Note: Tom mentioned last week that Week 6 (this is Week 7) was the week that Sabrina left and warned that anything could happen. That's why Mark was so nervous because he never made it to "two dances week" and felt like a "rookie" again.
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I don't get very "deep" into the competitions. I focus on the subtle and absurd.
Did Shannon tell Derek that if he didn't lay off, he'd be going home alone? I was sure she did.
Any idea how much ahead of time the pros get the music they will dance to? I find the choreography incredible, for the most part.
I'm also glad that this season couldn't be called "The Karina Hour", or DWK.
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Jason and Edyta's costumes - those are the colors of the Miami Dolphins, Jason's team. I loved their Quick Step - not so much the Paso Dobles.
I agree with songbird - Marissa does absolutely nothing for me. Yes, she has improved; I still don't get her.
Christian - that poor guy. I'm wondering if he will be able to continue. Judging by what I saw last night, he's not going to be able to practice right away.
Dougie Darling thinks Kristi is the cat's pajamas - I swear he was drooling during their Cha Cha.
Mario is so good - wish I could like his partner better. She colors how I feel about him.
Shannon - I think she's done well, but she and Marissa can go anytime.
While I was getting my hair cut this morning, I was glancing through one of those celeb magazines. Can't remember the name. anyway there was an article about Cheryl Burke and Drew Lachey. Implied they are more than just good friends - more like friends with benefits. There was a photo of Cheryl - outdoors. Behind her was a guy who looked exactly like Derek Hough, smoking a cigarette. I wondered if this was taken on one of the DWTS tours. It looked cold - she had on a coat - like in one of the northern cities. Anyway, I swear it is Derek. Someone needs to straighten him up - he's too young and too talented to waste his lungs. and he's supposedly a good Mormon boy. That's a no-no for them.
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A few brief comments about this week. I feel so bad about this, but I cannot 'connect' with Marissa. Her costuming is horrible and she just looks out of place on the ballroom floor. I'm uncomfortable watching her.
I'm so displeased with the judges regarding Cristian. It seems to me that they DID include his mishap in the scores when they said they wouldn't. Had they not, I believe he would have scored a point higher with each judge.
Shannon needs to go. I've lost interest in her after that outburst. What poor sportsmanship she has shown. Derek may have spoken the truth about some other couples, but being a pro, I don't accept his apology. I BET he wants us all to forget and move on!!!!
I fear for Mario. Does he have a small fan base or is Karina a liability?
Tonight is brutal ~~AI -- DWTS -- Boston Legal = too many goodies in one evening!
Thanks for the great recap as usual.
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How do they learn two dances like that in a week??
Ballroom round:
Jason was absolutely the best. I loved his dance. Everyone else did well I thought but paled in comparison
Latin round:
No one touched Kristi. I loved her routine and the music. Mario and Karina were oustanding as well. I felt terrible for Christian and wonder if he has something more serious than a severe muscle cramp. Do they really send you to the emergency room for that? I thought maybe he hyperextended his elbow or snapped a tendon. I also think he was judged too low. The routine wasn't great, but it deserved at least 8's and not 7's. Clearly they didn't judge up to the point that he was hurt, they included it.
A few thoughts:
I'm in the minority here so I have a few unpopular observations. I like Marissa and really applaud how far she's come. To me, she's what this show is all about. People like her and Jason and Christian who have improved every week and learned how to dance. I love Kristi, but think she has somewhat of an unfair advantage. I agree that at times, Marissa isn't pretty to look at, but lets face it, how many of us would cut an Edyta like line out there? I don't think the problem is in the moves Tony has her doing, she's doing the same moves as everyone else, it's the costumes. Why are they dressing her like that? She needs to be in something covering her up a bit more. It can be fitted, but it doesn't have to be super short, or with flesh colored cut outs, or sleeveless or slit up to her belly button. If I were her, I'd be demanding something a little more flattering. Her dress for the waltz last week was the first and only appropriate outfit I've seen her in.
As far as Shannon and Derek go, I'm not crazy about how they expressed themselves last week and it was unprofessional. And Shannon, why are you crying like your career is ruined? You weren't moving your hips, just like you didn't really move them last night. Give it a rest. As unprofessional as that display was, I agree with every word Derek said. The judges are judging everyone to a different set of rules. Carrie Ann deliberately ignored a mistake that Jason made a few weeks ago and gave him a high mark anyway. He was right, they're ignoring heel leads and really bad lines with arms, even I can see that. Yet with Shannon, they go into attack mode every time. I also think Derek may have been jumping to the defense of someone he's lusting after and it affected his judgement.
After all that, I think the bottom two will be Christian and Cheryl (not deserved at all) and Shannon and Derek. While their tango was good, that mambo was awful. She was truly all gangly arms and legs and it looked terrible. I was willing to keep them around, but she deserves to go home after her performance last night
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Marissa...Tango...she is doing much better and has gained confidence, but some of her moves look uncomfortable.
Christian... Waltz...Oh, man...great job! And, his daughter was precious.
Kristi...Waltz...a beautifully flowing dance with amazing turns and the umbrella set it off perfectly...the prop worked.
Mario...Mambo...I liked the dance, but felt something was missing. The kid sure has charisma.
Shannon...Tango...I think attitude is getting in the way. My opinion of her has sure changed since the start of the show. I once saw potential, now all I see is stinky attitude. I can't get past the attitude to pay attention to the dancing.
Jason...Quick Step...Wow! great, fun dance. Who knew those football guys could dance until DWTS?
Marissa...Rumba...nice job...still some uncomfortable moves. I guess it's due to the choreography...just not quite right for her.
Christian...Samba...what we saw of the dancing was great...way better than 7s. I felt so bad for him...he really wanted to finish but the pain was too much. Plus I know his arm was hurting.
Kristi...Cha-Cha...WOW! I found the style fun and packed with engery. Plus she was having a great time.
Mario...Mambo...fun dance.
Shannon...Mambo...again attitude got in the way. I found nothing cute about her hip action in the judge's faces. I found it childish and full of bad attitude. She can leave.
Jason...Paso Doble...grrreat job!! Cute costumes, although a bit out of the ordinary for a Paso.
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