Y&R Discussion Group -- It looks like Senator Obama authored several laws in Illinois ... (political)

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Topic: It looks like Senator Obama authored several laws in Illinois ... (political)

Topic Posted by: faysie
Date Posted: Thu Sep 4 13:30:34 2008
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Didn't Sarah Palin say that Senator Obama hadn't 'authored a single law'? He seems to have authored several during his time with the Illinois state gov't.

One problem he wanted to address was that too many confessions, rather than being voluntary, were coerced -- by beating the daylights out of the accused.

Obama proposed requiring that interrogations and confessions be videotaped.

For the complete article click on the link below:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/03/AR2008010303303.html

Posted by: Canadian Lurker
Date posted: Thu Sep 4 21:09:39 2008
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Faisie, thanks so much for posting this. I hope others will take the time to read it and appreciate Senator Obama's record on human and legal rights.

Posted by: ingyandbert
Date posted: Thu Sep 4 17:31:13 2008
Message:
Way more than several. According to an article on BO's website, he sponsored nearly 800 bills in the Illinois Senate.

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That's why it is so ridiculous for Palin et al to say that he didn't 'author any laws'.... what was she thinking!? eom/faysie

Posted by: Bess
Date posted: Thu Sep 4 15:32:49 2008
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The heavy hand of Karl Rove can be seen here .... once he came on board, the lies, negativity, character bashing etc began to flow!!!!

Rudy Giugliani and VP hopeful, Palin, both distorted the truth and out and out lied!

No wonder President Eisenhower's offspring have left the Republican Party and are voting for the democrats ... poor DDE must be rolling over in his grave! But he should have worked harder to keep Richard Nixon, the master of defamation and dirty tricks [Tricky dicky] out of his presidency. That said, I do believe Ike was an honourable and very intelligent man ... he would be appalled at the way in which the "war on terror" or "the war in the name of terror" has been conducted!

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I'd of course heard of Karl Rove through the past years, but only recently started really reading about him. Wow - what dirty tricks he pulled! I know politics is a dirty business much of the time, but IMO at least this guy was/is the dirtiest of the dirty. eom/faysie

Posted by: old and restless
Date posted: Thu Sep 4 14:11:06 2008
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Jut one of the many lies that were told last night about Obama.

Posted by: Kate
Date posted: Thu Sep 4 13:52:47 2008
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Intersting reading, faysie. Wanna bet not many will read this? It sure as heck is obvious that the 'speech writers' for Ms. Palin didn't. Or else she just lied. Which as a matter of fact she's done before.

This is from The Frontiersman in Alaska, so some there didn't like the lie, either:

" For you idiots who write Obama has done nothing and has no experience, I share this with you.

Obama's experience:
Be an informed: DON’T BE STUPID ALL YOUR LIFE!!

US Senate, served on the FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE, HOMELAND SECURITY COMMITTEE, VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMITTEE, HEALTH, EDUCATION, LABOUR & PENSION COMMITTEE.
- Before US Senate Obama served 11 years in the Ill State Senate.
- graduated TOP of his class at Harvard Law School. Degree in Political science specializing in International Relations. Civil Rights lawyer for 9 years.Univ of Chicago Constitutional Law Professor for 12 years. "''

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I'm one who DID read it, and I still do not think Obama is experienced enough to run this country, especially when we live under the threat of terrorism, and especially, with what is going on with Iran. I think Obama would be too ''soft'' on our adversaries, and I don't trust him. He gives me the impression that all he cares about is getting in. We will see bigger government, and definitely more taxes. Besides, he has this attitude, like everyone else who doesn't agree with him, is dumb. He can be very condescending. Not my cup of tea..........................DianeR

Thanks for posting that, Kate. It wipes out the argument that Palin, with her vast small town mayoral and 18 whole months of gubernatorial (but not one shred of federal or foreign policy experience) has more experience than either Obama or Biden, let alone both as the ridiculuous argument goes. ~i&b

Posted by: DianeR
Date posted: Thu Sep 4 13:50:46 2008
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Thank you for posting this. Faysie, I watch alot of crime shows, as forensic science has fascinated me for a long time. And one thing that has always bothered me, is coerced confessions. Some confessions are videotaped, but I believe ALL should be videotaped, from the time they bring the person in for questioning, until it is over. This will NOT make it more difficult for law enforcement to nab the bad guy. On the contrary. At least, the bad guy and his attorney would not be able to say that the confession was "coerced". Not if it was recorded on tape, plus, if the person's attorney is not present, then there should be an impartial witness present.