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Subject: Peridot, leaving my church would never enter my mind. I can follow the laws of the Church. I have no problem. These guys are breaking the rules . They have the problem.........................Kate
Response Posted by: Kate
Date Posted: Wed Apr 30 12:30:49 2008
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Subject: Yes, I get that. My point was, if these guys don't want to follow the rules they ought to go elsewhere rather than expect the church to grant them special concessions that aren't available to folks like you and me. - Peridot
Response Posted by: Peridot
Date Posted: Wed Apr 30 14:53:09 2008
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Subject: See? That's exactly what I did! The Church told me that you can't do this or that; or such and such is a sin and you have to confess or be damned to hell for eternity or whatever. I don't believe in sins, hell or judgement - so I told the Catholic Church ''buh bye,'' and never looked back. My mother is still a practicing Catholic, but even she will tell me that she thinks a lot of what's in the Bible or what the Church preaches is not always a good thing. She's proudly pro-choice, very much for gay rights, divorced, and doesn't get into all of that ''act only a certain way, or else'' stuff. She just goes to Mass every week because she feels a certain peace, which I can understand. Mass can be very comforting. It's all of the rules and judgement that gets me. My sister also left the church - is thinking of becoming Episcopalian (like her husband) if anything at all. My father is the most recent one in my family to become a ''recovering Catholic'' (heard that on Bill Maher a few weeks ago, LOL). He had a very strict Catholic upbringing. But for some reason, wants his funeral in a Catholic church (?!) Whatever!..........DebS
Response Posted by: DebS
Date Posted: Wed Apr 30 21:43:31 2008
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Subject: Deb, my husband is from a family of lapsed Catholics and I've heard lots of similar stories from them. I recall a friend of mine in college who was raised Catholic but no longer attended church and swore he didn't even believe in God any more. And yet, he said every Sunday he felt guilty for not attending Mass, LOL. I hear some of my Catholic friends joke about Catholic guilt too. - Peridot
Response Posted by: Peridot
Date Posted: Wed Apr 30 22:17:23 2008
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Subject: That Catholic guilt is wide-ranging. We were not raised Catholic (except for my oldest sister; she ended up leaving the Church over the priest abuse scandal and how that was covered up for decades) but Mother was and her whole family was very into the Catholic Church. I used to joke with my friends that I'm not Catholic, I just inherited the guilt. LOL! ~i&b
Response Posted by: i&b
Date Posted: Thu May 1 8:54:49 2008
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Subject: I like your joke. It's so true too. Have you ever heard Alannis Morrisette's song called ''Forgiven.'' It talks all about the guilt Catholic children are subjected to and accounts a woman who left the church as a result of that and other things. If I were slightly as talented as she is, I could have written the same song, LOL!.........DebS
Response Posted by: DebS
Date Posted: Thu May 1 12:52:20 2008
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Subject: ''Forgiven'' Lyrics inside. It's from her ''Jagged Little Pill'' album..........DebS
Response Posted by: DebS
Date Posted: Thu May 1 12:55:13 2008
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You know how us catholic girls can be
We make up for so much time a little too late
I never forgot it, confusing as it was
No fun with no guilt feelings
The sinners, the saviors, the loverless priests
Ill see you next sunday
(chorus)
We all had our reasons to be there
We all had a thing or two to learn
We all needed something to cling to
So we did
I sang alleluia in the choir
I confessed my darkest deeds to an envious man
My brothers they never went blind for what they did
But I may as well have
In the name of the father, the skeptic and the son
I had one more stupid question
(repeat chorus)
What I learned I rejected but I believe again
I will suffer the consequence of this inquisition
If I jump in this fountain, will I be forgiven
(repeat chorus)
We all had delusions in our head
We all had our minds made up for us
We had to belive in something
So we did
